From: greg@ideath.goldenbear.com (Greg Broiles)
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 94 17:50:35 PDT
To: jrochkin@cs.oberlin.edu (Jonathan Rochkind)
Subject: Re: PRIVACY REGULATIONS
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> There is no requirement to identity yourself, but the police will regularly
> lock you up in jail until you do identify yourself. They can't _force_
> you to identify youself, and you can't go to trial for not doing so
> (partially because they dont' know who you are, but even if they later
> find out for other means), but nevertheless police departments everywhere
> will lock you up until you provide ID if you are stopped for a traffic
> violation.

> There is a guy around here-abouts who will routinely gets stopped for
> speeding and refuses to show ID out of principal. They put him in jail.
> He's tried to sue them, and lost. 

This seems to conflate three separate issues:

1) being required to identify yourself (e.g., give a name and/or address
and/or date-of-birth)

2) being required to "prove" your identity by producing some sort of
credential

3) being required to have a valid drivers' license in your possession
while driving

Hopefully, we will be able to use cryptographic techniques to prevent
(3) from being permanently associated with (1) and (2). I'm inclined
to eliminate pre-testing and certification for drivers - cops who 
suspect that a certain person shouldn't be driving could administer 
some sort of (probably "VR" [ack, buzzwords!]) "road test" on the
spot - people who pass are OK, and people who fail - because they're
too young, too old, too drunk, too stupid, or too sleepy get punished
for driving while incompetent. 


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