From: tcmay@netcom.com (Timothy C. May)
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 94 00:37:50 PST
To: jcorgan@netcom.com (Johnathan Corgan)
Subject: Re: Oceania?
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Johnathan Corgan wrote:

> I had come across a reference to this in Tim's CYPHERNOMICON.
> 
> Was this whole project a giant scam?  Has this been objectively
> demonstrated, or just suspected/believed?
...
> Could someone bring me up to speed on this group?  On the surface, it 
> would seem that there is a lot in common with their objectives and the
> general Cypherpunks "philosophy". (quotes because I understand the 
> diversity of thought in this group.)

I won't say it's a scam, but a lot of people think it is/was. I
thought it had died some months back, when all posts (of which there
had previously been many) suddnly stopped. 

The idea of soliciting "contributions" to fund some kind of seagoing
barge, sinkable with a single torpedo (anonymous delivered, easily
enough), is crazy. 

If changes are going to occur, it won't be by collecting dribs and
drabs of small change from suckers who think they'll someday be
"living off the sea, consulting via satellite dish." (That's not a
direct quote, just my gleaning of the Oceania philosophy.)

They're out to lunch, or scam artists, or hopeless dreamers, or all of
the above. Gone to Roatan.

--Tim May


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