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> Could someone bring me up to speed on this group?  On the surface, it 
> would seem that there is a lot in common with their objectives and the
> general Cypherpunks "philosophy". (quotes because I understand the 
> diversity of thought in this group.)

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> From nobody@soda.BErkeley.EDU Wed Aug  3 11:12:35 PDT 1994
> Article: 17449 of alt.privacy
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> From: nobody@soda.BErkeley.EDU (Tommy the Tourist, Anon User)
> Newsgroups: alt.privacy
> Subject: OCEANIA GETS SCREWED!
> Date: 28 Jul 1994 20:47:23 -0000
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>               From CompuServe's Libertarian Political Issues Forum
> 
> 
> Subject: #216752-Oceania?
> From: Scott A. Kjar 70402,3124
> To: L D Weller 71011,1743
>  
> It  turned out to all be a scam, actually.  The key people involved, Eric
> Kline and Chuck Geshlieder, allegedly had a scheme set up where they
> repeatedly paid themselves out of all of the proceeds.  It apparently went
> something like this:
>  
> 1)  Donations came to Oceania.  Kline and Geshlider, as principals, got
> paid a portion.
>  
> 2)  Oceania then contracted with The Gold Standard Press, owned by Kline
> and Geshlider, to do printing.  Kline got a share as the sales rep.
>  
> 3)  Gold Standard Press then printed fund-raising letters for Oceania.
> Kline and Geshlider split the profits, as partners in Gold Standard.
>  
> 4)  Oceania sent out more fund-raising requests.
>  
> 5)  Donations came to Oceania.  (see #1)
>  
> It fell apart when Kline and Geshlider allegedly accused each other of
> fraud, and Geshlider apparently took his case to the Nevada State Attorney
> General's Consumer Fradu Division.  (Poor Chuck, there were no consumer's
> in this transaction.)  What is amazing about all of this is that The Gold
> Standard was an ILLEGAL business (no business license) and Chuck had been
> hauled before a judge a few months ago on this very charge.  He allegedly
> threatened to beat her up in the parking lot (something he has threatened
> to virtually everyone who has ever met him), and then skipped town for a
> couple of weeks.  The people at the Attorney General's office apparently
> were astounded that Chuck, who is knowlingly running an illegal business,
> and is not keeping any records the IRS might get hold of, is complaining
> about his business partner and co-conspirator about a scam.  After all,
> there are NO Gold Standard Press records, and there are NO Oceania
> records.  (It turns out that Kline was simply writing checks Pay To The
> Order of Cash, and then using the cash to cover his reversals in the Stock
> Market.)
>  
> Eventually, their need for cash apparently outstripped the rate at which
> suckers were sending them money, and like hungry wolves, set upon each
> other.
>  
> GOOD RIDDANCE!
>  
> p.s. I know both of these jerks personally. We have tried to throw them
> out of the LP in Las Vegas for several years.  Like counterfeit money,
> they just keep turning up!
> 
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