From: bshantz@spry.com
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
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Raw Date: Wed, 21 Dec 94 11:55:31 PST
From: bshantz@spry.com
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 94 11:55:31 PST
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
Subject: Re: GUI: PGP vs novices
Message-ID: <199412211955.LAA11235@homer.spry.com>
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Jeff Licquia writes:
>>You will notice that this message is not signed. That's because in order to
>>sign it, I would need to save my message, hop out to a DOS box, PGP encrypt
>>it, hop back to my mail program and insert the encrypted mail as a text
file.
>>That's enough to discourage the average user. This is pretty much what Tim
>>May was talking about when he discussed why he doesn't sign his messages.
>>It's not that he couldn't... it's just not practical for him. It's not
really
>>practical for me either, but I do it when I feel it's necessary.
>Just a small nit, but it appears that you're running something
>Windows-compatible on your desk (the DOS box and all that). Are you aware
>of the good Windows tools for PGP? The particular one I use (PGPClip by
>Mike Meyer) uses the clipboard, and is very nice and simple.
Exactly my point Jeff. Thank you for justifying what I said....**WINK**,
**GRIN**.
In order to even use PGPClip, it involves something OUTSIDE the mail
application. (Although, it does sound intriguing to me.) Anyway, this is yet
another example of the user needing to be fully conscious that they are
signing or encrypting. It should be second nature. In order for it to become
second nature, it MUST be included in the design of the mail package. (Or News
reader, or FTP software, whatever.)
Third party utilities make a piece of software harder to use. That's a given.
Now, don't get me wrong, there are some nice thrid party vendor products out
there. But, I have yet to see a crypto product that merges (cross platform)
into a mail package smoothly.
>Not a flame, or even a spark. Just wanting to make life easier for crypto
>enthusiasts.
Didn't see any sparks at all, Jeff. I am interested in PGPClip (at least to
look at) does anyone have an FTP site pointer where I could find it?
-- Brad
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