From: "L. McCarthy" <lmccarth@ducie.cs.umass.edu>
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 94 23:29:33 PST
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
Subject: Re: James vs. Eric
Message-ID: <199412130734.CAA29659@bb.hks.net>
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Eric # Perhaps you don't know the meaning of whitespace and paragraph breaks.
James > And then he contradicts himself:
# I did claim you were arguing from libertarian correctness.  Now that's
# just an insult, which I do not retract. [...]
# Oh, please.  Go back and read what I originally wrote.  Perhaps I
# overestimate your ability to ascertain relevance, though.
> You do not demonstrate much ability to think rationally
> in this posting.  A self contradiction in three lines,
> above, and some interesting logic to follow:
[...]
# This is not an argument.  This is a premise. 
> I see:  So you start off with the assumption that what
> I was arguing was false, and because that is a premise 
> not an argument, you do not have to defend it or support it. 

"I do not need to PROVE these FACTS because they are INCORRECT and because I
do not NEED to PROVE them they must be TRUE!!!" --James `Kibo' Parry, 2/22/94

> Nice piece of logic there.
> I accused you of flaming before reading.  Now you claim
> that you did read it, but the laws of logic exempt you
> from having to make rational criticism of what I wrote.
> I think your defense denigrates you more than my original 
> accusation did. 
> Now back to some slight crypto relevance:
[...]

*heavy sigh*

Eric & James, how about taking the "You're flaming me !" "No, I'm just 
insulting you !" portion of this debate to private email ?  I sincerely
doubt that very many people on the list give a damn about any of the above
jousting.

> Each posting I made was about the standards making process.

Sticking to flaming about Internet standards, rather than flaming about who
didn't read whose argument carefully, would be much more productive IMHO.

- - -L. Futplex McCarthy; PGP key by finger or server  "We've got computers, 
we're tapping phone lines; I know that that ain't allowed" --Talking Heads

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