1995-01-07 - Re: Remailer Abuse

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From: roy@cybrspc.mn.org (Roy M. Silvernail)
To: jrochkin@cs.oberlin.edu (Jonathan Rochkind)
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UTC Datetime: 1995-01-07 02:07:47 UTC
Raw Date: Fri, 6 Jan 95 18:07:47 PST

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From: roy@cybrspc.mn.org (Roy M. Silvernail)
Date: Fri, 6 Jan 95 18:07:47 PST
To: jrochkin@cs.oberlin.edu (Jonathan Rochkind)
Subject: Re: Remailer Abuse
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In list.cypherpunks, jrochkin@cs.oberlin.edu writes:

> At 3:12 PM 01/06/95, Russell Nelson wrote:

>>Why?  Why wouldn't the FV remailers use settlements?  At the end of
>>the month, everyone settles accounts in re who gets what fraction of
>>what.  No logs are needed other than counters.
> 
> Oh, you're suggesting that I'd only actually pay the first remailer on my
> chain, and at the end of the month he'd pay some of the money I (and
> others) paid him to all of the other remailers his transacted with over the
> month?  I hadn't thought of that, but now that I do, I can see several
> problems arising.

This might not be as much of a problem as you think.  Given that there
will likely be a mixture of free and pay remailers, and that a given
message may chain through one or more of either type, why not place the
stamp for each pay remailer inside the encrypted sub-packet which that
mailer will receive?

Think of each remailer as an independant post office.  For each pay
remailer, you need one stamp.  Ideally, each stamp would be a bit less
expensive, but since remailers don't need to share their revenue, that
shouldn't be much problem.  An intelligent chainer (Chain++, maybe?)
could keep track of your postage and put the stamps in the proper inner
envelopes.

This would work best if all the pay remailers accepted a common brand of
stamp.
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       Roy M. Silvernail         [ ]  roy@cybrspc.mn.org
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