From: pstemari@erinet.com (Paul J. Ste. Marie)
Date: Sat, 14 Jan 95 22:02:48 PST
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
Subject: Re: How do I know if its encrypted?
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At 10:51 AM 1/14/95 -0700, Ben.Goren@asu.edu wrote:
> ... Dave certainly doesn't want to know what Alice is sending him, because he
>might have to answer to a Grand Jury if he did. ...
>
>Of course, any data haven worth paying for will offer lots of neat
>features, like PGP support, anonymous file drops, and all other sorts of
>goodies. But that does little good if Alice can trick Dave into selling
>child pornography. ...

At 11:45 PM 1/14/95, Robert Rothenberg wrote:
> ... How does one keep a site from becomming a remote pirated-software exchange
>site? (Esp. since after that MIT case laws may be changed...) It seems that
>such a service could become a magnet for the "elite warez" crowd... and even
>if the operator isn't jailed it could lead to a shutdown of the service.

The whole point of a "data haven" is that the site of operation is in a 
jurisdiction where these things are not legal problems.  If you operate a DH 
in a location where child pornography/copyright laws are vigorously 
enforced, I really doubt that encryption is going to make any difference.  
As Robert rightly points out, a DH probably will become a location of 
massive copyright violation, etc ad nauseum.

I've cc'ed Mike Godwin on this in the hope that he can shed some light on 
what the scienter requirements for something like this would be.

    --Paul J. Ste. Marie
      pstemari@well.sf.ca.us, pstemari@erinet.com