1995-09-01 - Re: SSL search attack

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From: rkw@dataplex.net (Richard Wackerbarth)
To: droelke@rdxsunhost.aud.alcatel.com (Daniel R. Oelke)
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UTC Datetime: 1995-09-01 13:13:28 UTC
Raw Date: Fri, 1 Sep 95 06:13:28 PDT

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From: rkw@dataplex.net (Richard Wackerbarth)
Date: Fri, 1 Sep 95 06:13:28 PDT
To: droelke@rdxsunhost.aud.alcatel.com (Daniel R. Oelke)
Subject: Re: SSL search attack
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At 7:25 AM 9/1/95, Daniel R. Oelke wrote:
>>
>> I see nothing wrong with the concept of being allocated an initial chunk
>> and having the scan software attempt to ACK it when 50% of it has been
>> searched. A successful ACK would allow the releasing of a new chunk (in
>> response) equal in size to the returned chunk. A failure of the Server to
>> accept the ACK would trigger a retry at set intervals (such as 75% and 100%
>> or 60/70/80/90/100%) until the Server responds. Thus the scanner is always
>> in possession of a Full Sized Chuck to scan (so long as the Server accepts
>> an ACK before the 100% done mark) and temporary failures will not stop the
>> process of a scanner as currently happens.
>>
>
>The only way this can work is if the server is told it is a 50%/75%/etc
>size ACK, and then latter the server is ACKed for the full 100%.
>
>Why?  Because what happens if the client dies immediately after doing
>the ACK - maybe only 51% of that space has been searched, yet
>the server has already seen an ACK for it.

You NEVER claim to have searched space until you have actually done so.

>IMO - a % ACK is to much complexity and extra work on the server,
>which is already having trouble keeping up.
No. The claim is that the server has no problem keeping up with acks.
Besides, if it does, we simply insert a layer of "managers" to buffer the
top management from being "bothered" too often.

You are making the "ACK" too complicated.
Assuming that you are multi-threaded--- Simply run two "workers" on the
same machine. If there are delays in getting keys assigned, the two will
soon get out of phase and keep the cpu busy.

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Richard Wackerbarth
rkw@dataplex.net







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