From: anonymous-remailer@shell.portal.com
Date: Sat, 9 Sep 95 13:07:51 PDT
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
Subject: Re: Sigh Re: not a flame please read and think about this
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Pat F A R R E L L wrote:
 
/ Subject line is bull*&^&, IMHO, of course

Hey everyone has an opinion.
 
 In message Sat,  9 Sep 1995 16:40:00 UTC, an116512@anon.penet.fi  writes:
 
 > to make my point: why is pat farrel helping the nsa and nist make
 
 /Learn to spell my name. It is on my .sig, my keys, and in my userid.
 /We blockheaded, Irish Catholic Americans are damn proud of our name.
 /Farrell's (along with other cheap Irish labor) built the railroads
 /from Chicago west.  Please spell it correctly, even if you are flaming me.
 
F A R R E L L

M O U S E

 > hey why not just write the escorw code for them!!!???
 > is mr farrel just being naive or is does he realize who hes working for?
 > sorry to single him out but this is just an example of what im talking
 > about.
 
 /I doubt that this clown deserves a response, but...
 
Then shut up.

 /There were a number of cypherpunks there. I can't speak for all,
 /but I expect movites include:
 

 /- attempting to clarify vague and confusing wording so we could
 /understand what they wanted.
 
'k

 /- seeing that working with them, rather than yelling at their stupidity,
 /has a higher chance of getting results.
 
Beware of compromise, you become the rag puller for the rapist.

/ - we got to meet influential folks from industry who agree with us.
 
'k

 /- some of us aren't completely apposed to CKE. I think it has value.
 /If we could convert their plan for GAK into CKE, it would be a big win,
 /well worth the effort.

Yea right. 

/ - they are going to promulgate a FIPS PUB standard next week, whether I
/like it or not, and whether I help or not. It is better to have that
/standard understandable and clear than fuzzy and subject to subective
/evaluation. 

Clear as any government forced standard can be. 

/ - getting preposterous misstatements into the formal Federal Register so
/ we can quote it back to them in the congressional hearings. Mr Geoff
/ Greivelddinger's words should be handy to quote, for one example.
 
'k

 /- there are lots more, but I doubt that I can convince this clown.
 
Then shut up.