From: Bryce <wilcoxb@nagina.cs.colorado.edu>
To: “Erik E. Fair” (Time Keeper) <fair@clock.org>
Message Hash: 1c88940aef0d082cf991766cc67966a28dae361ac27836d823ed9bc8db431ef8
Message ID: <199510051942.NAA03482@nagina.cs.colorado.edu>
Reply To: <v02110105ac99c03922dd@[204.179.132.4]>
UTC Datetime: 1995-10-05 19:42:50 UTC
Raw Date: Thu, 5 Oct 95 12:42:50 PDT
From: Bryce <wilcoxb@nagina.cs.colorado.edu>
Date: Thu, 5 Oct 95 12:42:50 PDT
To: "Erik E. Fair" (Time Keeper) <fair@clock.org>
Subject: Re: Rethinking the utility of netnews "cancel" control messages
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"Erik E. Fair" (Time Keeper) <fair@clock.org> wrote:
> At 9:50 10/5/95, Rich Salz wrote:
> >Cancel/Supercede is a useful model -- architecting them out of Usenet
> >is a very bad idea. Ask Clarinet.
>
> Is it? The principal effects of not having the mechanism is a slightly
> higher disk storage requirement for netnews - something completely unheard
> of in the annals of USENET.
>
> The downsides of having the mechanism (especially unauthenticated) we see
> now: official and unofficial squelching of articles that someone doesn't
> like for whatever arbitrary or situational reason.
<snip>
Look just replace "cancel" with "mark as worthless and sign". Then
each reader may choose to "honor" the "cancel" or not. If you are
reading clari.news.world then you completely "honor" cancels signed by
ClariNet. If you are reading alt.religion.scientology, then you have
your user agent specifically bring "cancelled" articles to your
attention for reading. :-)
(As an aside this serves for moderation as well. Just tell your
user agent to honor messages marked as "cancelled, signed Bob The
Moderator" and you have entered a moderated newsgroup. And the
protocol that's gonna bring it to you? NoCeM and its relatives. Real
Soon Now, I think.)
Bryce
signatures follow
"To strive, to seek, to find and not to yield."
<a href="http://ugrad-www.cs.colorado.edu/~wilcoxb/Niche.html">
bryce@colorado.edu </a>
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