From: iagoldbe@calum.csclub.uwaterloo.ca (Ian Goldberg)
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
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UTC Datetime: 1995-11-30 22:13:29 UTC
Raw Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 06:13:29 +0800
From: iagoldbe@calum.csclub.uwaterloo.ca (Ian Goldberg)
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 06:13:29 +0800
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
Subject: Re: ecash lottery (Was: ecash casino)
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In article <199511300621.WAA26406@netcom14.netcom.com>,
Bill Frantz <frantz@netcom.com> wrote:
>At 20:38 11/29/95 -0800, Timothy C. May wrote:
>>Have to be _very_ careful here. A variety of scams can be developed which
>>show lots of "small" winners, but which fail to show any large winners. The
>>lottery operators can make a lot of extra bucks by simply not paying off
>>the large winnings, in various ways.
>
>With complete anonimity, the scam I would think of first is giving other
>nyms of myself all the big payoffs.
>
But with complete anonymity, no player knows who else is playing, let
alone who won. So if you were going to pay off yourself, you may as well
just pay off no one.
The idea behind my proposal was that any participant can determine if he has
won. The winning number (a hash of which was published beforehand, as in
a "bit commitment" scheme) is announced. Anyone who picked a number
that, say, matched in the last digit, wins $2. If you matched the
last two digits, you win $10, etc. The house (without sacrificing
reputation) can't arrange who the big payoffs will go to, nor can it
(as I think Tim suggested) give out lots of small prizes and no big ones.
- Ian
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