From: Mark Murray <mark@grondar.za>
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 04:37:15 +0800
To: perry@piermont.com
Subject: Re: Exporting software doesn't mean exporting (was: Re: lp ?)
Message-ID: <199511071907.VAA01462@grumble.grondar.za>
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> 
> "Peter D. Junger" writes:
> > : Where the hell did you get that idea? [that the ITAR applies to
> > : foreigners abroad].
> > 
> > >From Section 120.17 of the ITAR which provides:
> > 
> >  _Export_ means:
> > 
> >  . . . .
> > 
> >  (4) Disclosing (including oral or visual disclosure) or transfering
> >  technical data to a foreign person, whether in the United States or
> >  abroad . . . .

Hmm. Not only is this law unenforceable, it is unenforced. Anyone,
non-US or otherwise can buy crypto books - you just can't get the code
on floppy. Bruce Schneier went through this procedure when he CJ'ed
"Applied Cryptography".

\begin{lighter_note}
The illegal bit about (for instance) the munitions T-shirt is that it
has a bar code. _This_ makes it illegal for export, because not only is
it machine washable, it is machine readable.
\end{lighter_note}

Academic exchange of mathematical knowledge has never been under scrutiny.

"Technical data" will have to be interpreted to mean somethiing different,
like details of the inner workings of militart encryption equipment and the
like.

M

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