1995-11-24 - Re: establishing trust

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From: “Ed Carp [khijol SysAdmin]” <khijol!erc@uunet.uu.net>
To: cme@clark.net (Carl Ellison)
Message Hash: ee56539b9b82335594ba8862c9cc10747f6e5fe9b1e3ab2dc5570084fc838ea9
Message ID: <199511240708.BAA22051@khijol>
Reply To: <199511240500.AAA07836@clark.net>
UTC Datetime: 1995-11-24 16:02:42 UTC
Raw Date: Sat, 25 Nov 1995 00:02:42 +0800

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From: "Ed Carp [khijol SysAdmin]" <khijol!erc@uunet.uu.net>
Date: Sat, 25 Nov 1995 00:02:42 +0800
To: cme@clark.net (Carl Ellison)
Subject: Re: establishing trust
In-Reply-To: <199511240500.AAA07836@clark.net>
Message-ID: <199511240708.BAA22051@khijol>
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> >From khijol!erc@uunet.uu.net Thu Nov 23 16:21 EST 1995
> >From: "Ed Carp [khijol SysAdmin]" <khijol!erc@uunet.uu.net>
> 
> ..so..why the UUCP style address?

Because I don't have a real UUCP connection at the moment.  Khijol is 
expected to get back on the net as khijol.org in the next few days.  Just 
trying to get by until then :)

> >Subject: Re: crypto for porno users
> >To: khijol!clark.net!cme@uunet.uu.net (Carl Ellison)
> >Date: Thu, 23 Nov 1995 15:57:17 -0600 (CST)
> >Cc: khijol!got.net!edge@uunet.uu.net, khijol!toad.com!cypherpunks@uunet.uu.net
> >
> 
> >totally different from this "web of trust" I keep hearing about - and that is
> >*it*.  Do you trust me any more now than before I started signing my postings?
> 
> Actually, in my view, signed postings are the first step.  With those (and
> the right S/W (not there yet)), I get to know that a bunch of postings came
> from the same person.  I even know who they came from:  the person who
> is capable of signing with key 0xXXXXXXXX.

Yes, but that only establishes that I was the one who wrote the post, not 
that I am to be trusted...

> Since the only way I have of getting to know the person is through those
> postings, I get to know that person and through that knowledge I decide
> whether or not to trust.
> 
> And, yes, I can be fooled.

I've met a fair number of people in person that I've met over the net, and
I'm here to tell you that a lot of people I've met are totally different
in person than they are over the net.  People that I thought I could trust
gave me the willies in person, and I eventually found out that I couldn't
trust them at all.  Get burned a couple of times like that, and you learn
to suspend trust until you really meet someone in person. 

Just my $0.02.
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