From: Brian Davis <bdavis@thepoint.net>
Date: Sat, 9 Dec 95 22:40:16 PST
To: Russell Nelson <nelson@crynwr.com>
Subject: Re: Escrow expectations
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On Fri, 8 Dec 1995, Russell Nelson wrote:

> Duncan Frissell writes:
>  > At 09:17 AM 12/8/95 -0500, Adam Shostack wrote:
>  > 
>  > >	"Your honor, we argue that in escrowing his keys with the US
>  > >government, the defendant should have known his communications could
>  > >be listened to, and thus has no expectation of privacy."
>  > 
>  > If Clipper were mandated you might be able to resist a prosecution for
>  > "failure to file" keys or for double encrypting your transmissions if you
>  > could prove that you were transmitting illegal messages or evidence of a
>  > crime.  Just as those who possess illegal weapons are not required to
             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>  > register them (self incrimination).  You have to be sure your traffic is
     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

You are mistaken here.  Failure to get a permit before turning a 
semi-auto firearm into a fully-auto machine gun, for example, is illegal 
as is possessing an unregistered machine gun ...

EBD




>  > illegal though otherwise no protection.
> 
> To bring two cypherpunks threads together:
> 
> That SHIT should be FUCK no DAMN problem ANAL whatsoever in a few SEX
> months.
> 
> -russ <nelson@crynwr.com>    http://www.crynwr.com/~nelson
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> 

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