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From: nobody@REPLAY.COM (Anonymous)
Date: Sun, 3 Dec 95 10:07:09 PST
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
Subject: Jim Clark, "Mr. Bubble"
Message-ID: <199512031807.TAA07090@utopia.hacktic.nl>
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Alex Strasheim, 12/2/95, 6:53 PM:
>I don't expect Netscape, as a corporate citizen, to engage in civil
>disobedience. But I hope that Netscape will take seriously its obligation
>to protect the rights of citizens.
I do. I regard the capacity to do so as crucial, and I regard the
fact that you *don't* expect them to as very telling. As has been pointed
out extensively, the chances that he'll manage to hang on to his
soft-earned cash until he can sell out are a long shot--unless he takes a
stand against GAK. Governmental policy on the subject of crypto has relied
upon secrecy, obscurity, and above all terrorizing individuals; the gov't
would be extremely reluctant to throw the book Netscape, given its
symbolic significance in the market. And even if it did, Clark's future
would be assured--maybe after he got out of Club Fed, but assured
nonetheless.
Let me be clear: if Clark and Netscape said "We're implementing and
releasing a version with a key length we support," crypto policy would be
the lead story on the evening news--and the gov't would lose. The only
question is how fast.
>The decison that Netscpae is faced with now is a big one. It's going to
>have widespread and long lasting consequences for privacy and civil
>liberties all over the world. When you look at what's going to happen on
>the ground, it's probably as important as a major decision by the Supreme
>Court.
>>We understand that government officials in this country and elsewhere are
>putting pressure on Netscape. But you should understand that the public
>is overwhelmingly in favor of universal access to strong crypto. This is
>a democracy, after all, and the FBI and NSA still work for the people.
>If you need help standing up for what's right, you'll get it. Take your
>case to the public, and you'll be suprised at the response you'll get.
You set forth all these silly generalities as though they suggest
that NS's best bet--for Clark, for itself, for the public--is to go along
with US policy? Bullshit. Their best bet is to use their golden-boy status
to sucker punch the gov't.
>Why not say:
>
> 1 Netscape will follow all laws and regulations.
> 2 The current rules are forcing Netscape to choose
> between providing reasonable levels of privacy
> to its customers and competing in the international
> marketplace.
> 3 Netscape feels the rules should be changed to make
> this choice unnecessary.
Bah. Why not:
1 Make illegal software available by FTP
2 Explain it's doing so because ITAR is bullshit
3 Face the gov't down in the press and in the courts
>If you make that argument publicly, you'll get widespread support from the
>business communitity and the general public. And if it turns out that we
>can't win, you can always fall back on selling totalitarian-friendly
>products.
If NS did this, they'd win BIG.
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