From: attila <attila@primenet.com>
To: “Timothy C. May” <tcmay@got.net>
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UTC Datetime: 1996-01-16 05:50:53 UTC
Raw Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 13:50:53 +0800
From: attila <attila@primenet.com>
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 13:50:53 +0800
To: "Timothy C. May" <tcmay@got.net>
Subject: Re: Crypto anarchist getting through customs
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On Mon, 15 Jan 1996, Timothy C. May wrote:
> YCO: " 'Cryptography'? " (A look of no comprehension.)
>
> Me: "Yes, cryptography. You know, secret codes, ciphers, stuff like that."
>
> YCO: "Were there any foreigners present?"
>
> Me: "Yes, it was in Monte Carlo. There were some Russians there, and lots
> of others."
>
> YCO: [brief pause] "Did you bring anything back with you?"
>
> Me: "No."
>
> YCO: [waved me through]
>
You were lucky. had the YCO understood the implications of
crypto, he probably would not have been so genial.
San Fransisco is a good entry port for that reason --it does not
seem to be a major drug entry point via commercial airlines.
Secondly, the four or five times I have gone through there have been
hi-bye even though I am flagged --however, carrying a foreign service
passport (which has no relation to immunity) requires them to manually
enter the number... end of story in loose ports.
>
> In my carry-on luggage I had half a dozen magneto-optical disks, carring
> about a gigabyte of stuff. (As props to use during my talk on the
> France/Monte Carlo side, ironically, to show that borders are fully
> transparent.)
>
For the record, I have _never_ imported or exported anything
relevant as my own courier; there are far too many easy ways...
>
> Frequent travellers to Europe will no doubt confirm what I'm saying. I
> travelled to dozens of countries in Europe a while back, and never was
> checked at any borders, save for a quick glance at my passport.
>
> --Tim May
>
For the most part that is very true. The only places I ever get
hassled is at obscure German-Swiss borders at night (driving).
Usually an older officer stuck with nights to encourage resignation
--breeds a foul temper and absolute lack of humour --not that the
Swiss ever had one <g) --I can say that with impunity: I am Swiss.
Other than bombs, the Europeans are just not cynically paranoid.
> "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."
>
yup, there's always high bandwidth spread spectrum in a truck.
attila
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