From: Bruce Baugh <bruceab@teleport.com>
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
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From: Bruce Baugh <bruceab@teleport.com>
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 16:57:56 +0800
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
Subject: Re: more RANTING about NSA-friendly cpunks
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At 12:41 PM 1/29/96 -0800, "Vladimir Z. Nuri" <vznuri@netcom.com> wrote:
>when you choose to be in fear of it, the bureacrats win.
On the contrary. Fear is a right and proper response to irrational demands
made by people with lots more force and public support than me. Fear becomes
bad only in our response to it. If I get scared into inaction, _then_ the
bureaucrats win. If I take the fear as motivation to improve my own security
and reduce my dependence on the whims of others, then the bureaucrats lose.
It is fear of the risks I run in an unsecured state that motivates me to
work on my own privacy, and to pass the info I learn on to others.
But fear, in this case, is merely the acknowledgement of the vast potential
for harm. Denying it is just foolish.
>sheep on the planet, all the way up to the head sheep TCM, who writes
>long explanations of why the police state is inevitable and nothing
>we can do will stop it,
You must be reading an alternate universe's version of Cypherpunks - check
to make sure that your quantum stabilizers are in order. In _my_ universe,
Tim May is a prominent advocate for freedom and self-government, who has
written well on why the collapse of the police state (and all states) is
inevitable, and what we can do in the meantime.
Side note to list owner: perhaps we need a majordomo hack to check this
cross-universe traffic problem. It seems to be becoming increasingly common.
Bruce Baugh
bruceab@teleport.com
http://www.teleport.com/~bruceab
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