1996-01-13 - Re: PRZ grand jury - how about free accts for them…

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From: liberty@gate.net (Jim Ray)
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
Message Hash: 71a5b47c12087db92ea98052ef87193aedc87e7832f9c48b20d561e45397f915
Message ID: <199601130041.TAA46336@osceola.gate.net>
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UTC Datetime: 1996-01-13 00:53:55 UTC
Raw Date: Sat, 13 Jan 1996 08:53:55 +0800

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From: liberty@gate.net (Jim Ray)
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 1996 08:53:55 +0800
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
Subject: Re: PRZ grand jury - how about free accts for them...
Message-ID: <199601130041.TAA46336@osceola.gate.net>
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patrick finerty wrote:

<snips>

>it would be nice if someone (c2??) would offer dialup 
>access for any members of the grand jury who wanted it.
>
and Professor Froomkin responded:

>sounds like jury tampering to me.  a good way to go to jail quickly.
>
>A. Michael Froomkin        | +1 (305) 284-4285; +1 (305) 284-6506 (fax)
>Associate Professor of Law | 
>U. Miami School of Law     | froomkin@law.miami.edu
>P.O. Box 248087            | http://www.law.miami.edu/~froomkin
>Coral Gables, FL 33124 USA | It's warm here.

I agree with the Professor (although as a native Floridian, I dispute
his .sig about it being warm here!:)) but AFAIK, and unless there are
court orders to the contrary, members of the jury may speak freely
*after* dismissal from grand jury duty. Our problem is finding them
(which shouldn't be *too* hard, given the technology we have). IMO,
after the jury is dismissed we must _not_ contact them directly, but
rather make it clear that we would be happy if they were to contact
us. Hopefully, one of our journalist-types could manage this without
yet-another article giving out the <cypherpunks@toad.com> address.
Presumably, grand-jurors who have carefully followed the court's
instructions would have a bit of catch-up reading on the subject
to do, thus giving us an opportunity for indirect contact with them.
I don't think that this would be illegal, but best to check with a
real-lawyer, and perhaps research the issue a bit, since PRZ's case
(supposedly) has "national security" overtones which could possibly
cause a court to want to hush things.
JMR


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