From: “James M. Cobb” <jcobb@ahcbsd1.ovnet.com>
To: “Timothy C. May” <tcmay@got.net>
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Raw Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 06:23:15 +0800
From: "James M. Cobb" <jcobb@ahcbsd1.ovnet.com>
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 06:23:15 +0800
To: "Timothy C. May" <tcmay@got.net>
Subject: Re: NSA says strong crypto to china??
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Tim,
On 01 07 96 you say:
...the crypto anarchy notions we talk about makes collection
of taxes increasingly problematic.
You also say:
Today, and especially with strong crypto and all the develop-
ing methods we talk about, how will the Ruler know what to
tax?
You conclude:
...I believe that this issue [collection of taxes] is one of the
motivations to restrict the use of strong crypto and to make
transactions monitorable.
In 02 96 Internet World, science fiction writer Vernor Vinge
is interviewed:
Suddenly [about 1984] people realized that if a 100 million
people each had computers that were one-tenth of one percent
as smart as the government's computers, they had much less to
fear about government.
Now we've entered an era where the government understands this.
One the one hand, police forces are legitimately [?] frightened;
law enforcement could become much more difficult. But at the
same time --with some new laws and technology-- police powers
could be much greater than before.... You've heard of ubiquitous
computing, but how about UBIQUITOUS LAW ENFORCEMENT?
Developing that line of thought, Vinge says:
...the old Clipper chip proposal recommended that GOVERNMENT
LOGIC be present in certain communications equipment.
For the future I think this aspect of Clipper was as significant
as the crypto issues. What would it be like if a certain amount
of GOVERNMENT LOGIC were mandated in the design of every host
in a country?
And Vinge concludes:
WE COULD HAVE REAL-TIME TAXATION.
and
...very fine-grain CONTROL would be possible.
Capitalization in the above excerpts is mine.
The whole interview is worth reading. Its title is: Reality &
Fiction. It starts at page 82. Jeff Ubois asked the questions.
Every HOST in a country? As Larry Ellison says in 12 26 95 /
01 02 96 Computerworld 41:
The ideal operating system arrives across a network when you
turn your computer on.
The GOVERNMENT LOGIC arrives too...
Cordially,
Jim
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