1996-01-06 - RE: Revoking Old Lost Keys

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From: tcmay@got.net (Timothy C. May)
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
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Message ID: <ad13f6bf040210040236@[205.199.118.202]>
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UTC Datetime: 1996-01-06 18:21:15 UTC
Raw Date: Sun, 7 Jan 1996 02:21:15 +0800

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From: tcmay@got.net (Timothy C. May)
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 1996 02:21:15 +0800
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
Subject: RE: Revoking Old Lost Keys
Message-ID: <ad13f6bf040210040236@[205.199.118.202]>
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At 9:47 AM 1/6/96, Frank O'Dwyer wrote:
>On Saturday, January 06, 1996 09:18, Timothy C. May[SMTP:tcmay@got.net] wrote:

>>Basically, you are screwed. Any revocation you attempt will not be trusted,
>>as we will suspect the new "you" to be an attacker, perhaps an agent of the
>>NSA or the Illuminati. In the view that "you are your key," the old you no
>>longer exists.
>
>This is true, but the "old you" can be resurrected if you can get enough
>people to believe your new key using any out-of-band means available
>to you.  You can also put a comment in your new key's uid explaining the

Could you explain how "enough people" can get around a basic
feature/limitation of the current PGP web of trust? Who, besides the
originator, can revoke an old key? How many does it take?

If a bunch of the "alleged" friends of Bruce could do this, could they not
revoke the key of someone they simply wish to hassle?

I agree that a new key can be generated, and a new "Please use this key,
not the other one" message sent, and this may work, but I don't believe
this revokes the old key and removes it from the keyservers. I could be
wrong, as I am certainly no expert on the keyservers.

The question is: is there a "majority vote" mode on the keyservers that
causes them to remove a key if enough people claim it is no longer valid?

--Tim May




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