From: Aleph One <aleph1@dfw.net>
To: Mark <mark@zang.com>
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UTC Datetime: 1996-01-12 01:39:02 UTC
Raw Date: Thu, 11 Jan 96 17:39:02 PST
From: Aleph One <aleph1@dfw.net>
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 96 17:39:02 PST
To: Mark <mark@zang.com>
Subject: Re: Mitnik and Shimomura
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On Thu, 11 Jan 1996, Mark wrote:
> It was not a trap. Shimomura was caught with his proverbials down. His
> arrogance made him complacent and as such he didnt take the most basic
> steps to keep the attack out.
>
> According to Tsutomo's own account of the incident he was only able to
> decipher what happened because the attacker(s) didnt clean away the info
> off the hard drive when they were finished. They rm'd sure but he dd'd
> the raw disk to another drive and worked through the blocks until he
> found the two tools that were used to effect the intrusion. He was also
> able to recover the tcpdump logs that were erased.
>
> If the intruder(s) had rm'd the data and THEN done a mkfile that filled the
> disk with 0's then most of what we know today would not be available.
> As mentioned a week or two back, filling the unused portions of blocks with
> 0's would probably also be necessary.
Yes but the the attacker would have been a malicous one wouldnt he?
> As to wether Mitnik is capable of effecting the intrusion, that is yet to
> be ascertained. He claims no involvement in it and based on whats known of
> his cracking prowess there is a certain truth to it. He's infinitely better
> with a phone than a keyboard.
>
And hes not the one that made the phonecalls either.
BTW,I'am I the only one bother to see my tax dollars being wasted
my scsd.edu hosting www.takedown.com a commercial venture?
Iam sure T&M have ebough money after book and movie deals to pay
for their net access.
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