From: tcmay@got.net (Timothy C. May)
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 10:46:04 +0800
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
Subject: Re: "German service cuts Net access" (to Santa Cruz)
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At 1:10 AM 1/29/96, John Lull wrote:

>Are you saying that, if I ran a bookstore, and accepted international
>mail orders, I would have to screen every order to ensure I did not
>ship something offensive to the German government?  And if I did fill
>such an order, and without ever having set foot in Germany, I could be
>arrested on my next trip to Europe, extradited to Germany, and
>imprisoned for doing something that is constitutionally protected in
>the US?

As a point of information, the operators of the "Amateur Action" bulletin
board in Fremont, California are now sitting in prison because they
e-mailed material fully legal in California but illegal (the court
determined) in Memphis, Tennessee.

And, yes, there are many things which are "constitutionally protected"
inside the U.S. but which are crimes in Europe and elsewhere. (And things
that are legal in Europe, but illegal in the U.S., and all permutations.)
One can write a book in the U.S. and receive a death sentence in Iran.

Get used to it. It makes no sense for us to whine and complain about
Country A outlawing some activity that is legal in Country B.

The thing for us to do is to use technology and code to subvert and bypass
laws of any country which are repressive and controlling.

--Tim


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