From: lmccarth@cs.umass.edu
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Raw Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 20:25:05 +0800
From: lmccarth@cs.umass.edu
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 20:25:05 +0800
To: cypherpunks@toad.com (Cypherpunks Mailing List)
Subject: Re: has this been on cypherpunks? (fwd)
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I just sent this to the remailer operators' list, but it may be of interest
here too. I think Tim or Lucky or someone suggested something like GAI
(Government Access to Identities) here a while back....
Forwarded message:
> Lance writes:
> > Is it just me, or does this guy make a convincing case for the need for
> > remailers without ever showing one shred of evidence to back up his fear
> > mongering?
>
> Exactly. Ted Byfield mentioned on cpunks that it reads like a free
> association session. I find the piece quite schizophrenic. (IANA
> psychologist :) They alternate between fairly eloquent arguments for the
> roots of remailers in fundamental principles of freedom and privacy, and
> the bizarre "anonymity as a disease" analogy.
>
> I hypothesize that the Strassmann & Marlow paper is meant to lay the
> groundwork for some sort of eventual Government Access to Identities proposal
> (which would more likely be termed "identity escrow" by the Feds). It's
> about the only way I can reconcile statements like the following
> (juxtaposed by me, not them):
>
> "...it becomes politically unacceptable to suppress remailers
> as potential sources of criminal acts. Such absolute
> prohibitions would never pass through a legislative process...."
>
> "As in the case of [various diseases] it will take disasters
> before the public may accept that some forms of restrictions
> on the electronic freedom of speech and privacy may be
> worthwhile."
>
> "We trust that this will be seen as a useful contribution to an
> already raging debate of how to find a balance between the
> desirable and the dangerous."
>
> I suspect the key phrases there are "absolute prohibitions", "some forms of
> restrictions", and "find a balance".
>
> I'm still surprised that the paper takes such a conciliatory stance towards
> anonymity and pseudonymity. Strong crypto and GAK-free crypto have big
> corporate constituencies, but I see strong and GAI-free anonymity/pseudonymity
> as much more vulnerable. I'm tempted to declare this a guarded preliminary
> success of the cpunks remailer community -- we are seen as a viable player
> in "the game", potentially capable of forcing at least a compromise on
> nymity issues.
>
> -Lewis
>
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