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From: owner-cypherpunks@toad.com
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 18:26:51 +0800
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I am answering the courteous inquiry from Thomas Womack about my request for
help with a Visual Basic-only PRNG. The premise is that those who will not or
can not afford hardware-based RNG's need something relatively secure in the
face of nothing at all or at best a lesser implementation.
I was reluctant to post code at first but rather asked for an interpretation
of 10 runs of 9999 characters each. I want peer review of source code but
the threads in CypherPunks have been of a shall we say "low signal to noise"
ratio of late. Even more so than usual. I just didn't want to feed the
beast at this time.
That said, here's the outline of what I'm doing. A splash screen loads first
displaying a random tip'o'the day about good key management. I make use of
the getcurrenttime() Win API a lot. Said to have 50 millicent increments.
' Load splash screen first
Sub Form_Load ()
' first randomize using number of milliseconds since Windows was launched
Randomize getcurrenttime()
' then rotate the tip'o'the day (30 currently, adding unknown some delay)
For j = 1 To Int(n * Rnd + 1)
Select Case j
Case 1
hint.Caption = "You passphrase is SUPPOSED to look like gibberish."
...
Case n
hint.Caption = "Change your passphrases often."
End Select
Next j
End Sub
' user clicks an OK button and up comes 2nd screen
Sub Form_Load ()
' mix things up
Randomize getcurrenttime()
End Sub
' main screen's OK button
Sub Command1_Click ()
Screen.MousePointer = 11
scramble = ""
keyLen = Val(keyLength.Text)
' repeat for the number of characters in the desired key
For i = 1 To keyLen
' character set is ASCII 33 to ASCII 127
scramble = scramble & Chr$(Int(94 * Rnd + 33))
' reseed
Randomize getcurrenttime()
' now make it wobble to throw off any regularity in the loop
' this loop works because as the 7 increases, so does execution time
For j = 1 To Int(7 * Rnd + 1)
'idle
Next j
Next
Screen.MousePointer = 0
secondaryForm.keyLabel.Caption = scramble
End Sub
I'd be happy with an analysis of just how random this is. My working
assumption is that over a >8 character key, it beats trying to dream one
up in one's head. Besides the getcurrenttime API, I don't know what else
to sample without an external DLL or hardware.
I started out attempting a keyboard timing routine but had second thoughts.
My software company has been doing bar code printing tools for years. Now
we're moving from simple encoding to encryption.
After playing with RSA Secure briefly, I realized that one way to spoof a
request to type willy nilly to initialize anything is to use a bar code
scanner. The common type is sometimes called a wedge because you plug your
keyboard into it, and it into the keyboard port. It's wedged between the
keyboard and the CPU.
So when asked to type (obstensibly to input randomly timed events) I scan
a very large block of bar coded material. I fill the keyboard buffer at a
fixed rate; the throughput of my scanner and PC. If I scan a large bar
code, yes, I'll fill the keyboard buffer as fast as possible. Little
entropy in my eyes.
Oh yeah, with common symbologies like Code 39 and Code 128, I can recreate
the whole lower ASCII 128 including tabs, LF/CR, etc. So I can tab to
activate buttons in some UI scenarios. Or do macros any any combination that
may include control characters.
So gang, what about bar code scanners being used to thwart random typing
requests??
Jerry Whiting
jwhiting@azalea.com
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