From: anonymous-remailer@shell.portal.com
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 19:33:11 +0800
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
Subject: Re: PING packets illegal?
Message-ID: <199602150341.TAA16668@jobe.shell.portal.com>
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Some entity that called itself "Mark M." appears to have said:

> On Tue, 13 Feb 1996 anonymous-remailer@shell.portal.com [me] wrote:
 
>> that ...... but if those ping packets contained little pieces of something
>> like PGP ...... would the host being pinged be breaking the law? Would

> Exporting encryption to the U.S. from another country is not illegal, only
> exporting from the U.S. is.  The method of transmissioni is irrelevant.  It
> does not matter if TCP packets or ICMP-ping packets are used to transmit the 
> data. 

That wasn't my point. I was talking about the host being pinged. Would 
that host be breaking ITAR regulations by sending those evil 
PGP-containing packets *back* to the foreign host?

> the destination are violating the law.  Since it is impossible to monitor the
> contents of every packet being transmitted over a network, I seriously doubt
> that any intermediate host would be considered to be in violation of ITAR.

Impossible, maybe. But that doesn't mean it can't be illegal. Take the 
CDA, for example. Fuck. Oops, Exon will be displeased. Am I going to be 
taken to jail? Most likely not. Was it illegal? Technically, yes.

Thanks,

Michael Ellis
<mellis@alpha.c2.org>

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