From: olmur@dwarf.bb.bawue.de (Olmur)
To: tcmay@got.net (Timothy C. May)
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UTC Datetime: 1996-03-27 07:43:02 UTC
Raw Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 15:43:02 +0800
From: olmur@dwarf.bb.bawue.de (Olmur)
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 15:43:02 +0800
To: tcmay@got.net (Timothy C. May)
Subject: Re: ITAR double standards?
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>>>>> "TCM" == Timothy C May <tcmay@got.net> writes:
[much deleted]
TCM> Now when I was with Intel, we made many of our chips in plants in
TCM> Ireland, Israel, and other locales outside the U.S. Some of these
TCM> chips were forbidden for export by the ITARs. And certainly the
TCM> knowledge of the engineers sent overseas was comparable to the
TCM> knowledge of RSA programmers....
Don't know about Intel, but IBM has an agreement with US-legislation,
that we can ship code, hardware and knowledge freely between all of
our locations. An export-licence is only required when code/hardware
leaves the IBM-corporation.
Technically IBM-Germany is a _German_ company, so that ITAR would not
effect IBM-Germany. However, the agreement between IBM-corporation
and US-legislation does have the desired effect (desired by US-legislation).
This seems to be the way how ITAR is enforced with multinational
corporations: they allow the very valuable exchange of knowledge, for
the prize of the corporation as a whole `voluntarily' obeying ITAR.
Of course all the usual disclaimers apply, ie I'm not a lawyer, don't
speak for IBM and the weather is not my fault either....
Have a nice day!
Olmur
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