From: jf_avon@citenet.net (Jean-Francois Avon (JFA Technologies, QC, Canada))
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
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From: jf_avon@citenet.net (Jean-Francois Avon (JFA Technologies, QC, Canada))
Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 03:57:07 +0800
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
Subject: Re: Electronic locksmiths are watching you (Belgium's ban onPGP)
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Dave Del Torto <ddt@lsd.com> wrote:
>At 1:25 am 3/30/96, jim bell wrote:
>>We should be particularly suspicious of any hint of a pan-European ban or
>>control of encryption, because that is exactly the kind of development that
>>could usher in a secretly-negotiated treaty that might be argued to be
>>binding on the public. [elided]
>Cypherpunks like Jim need to keep doing their homework before they make
>such quasi-factual statements.
Jim seems to analyse a situation in terms of broad principles,
while Dave seems to focus more on specifics that would disprove Jim.
I agree with the Dave's last phrase in the sense that our models of reality
should indeed be rooted in reality.
But considering that in most european country, you are recognized guilty
unless proven innocent, it is only non-contradictory to arrive at Jim's
conclusions. The basic psycho-epistemology at work there is implying that.
Maybe that on the instant, ugly things are not happening, but nevertheless,
the basic principles held about man, his nature and therefore, about how he
should be treated leads, by their own logic, to ugly things.
JFA
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