From: tcmay@got.net (Timothy C. May)
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
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From: tcmay@got.net (Timothy C. May)
Date: Sun, 3 Mar 1996 06:13:04 +0800
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
Subject: Re: Truly Random Numbers
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At 9:26 PM 3/2/96, Adam Shostack wrote:
> My expectation would be that your numbers are not random in a
>cryptographic sense, and that this route of attack is much less
>efficient than others that would be used.
>
> I'll note that PGP does NOT take your data entered and convert
>it to numbers, but takes timings to choose a hard to predict starting
>point for its prime searching.
Yes, which is why I said this in my post:
"...With a reasonable amount of entropy, such as picking the next digit
from several keyboard timings, I expect the 150-decimal-digit number to be
*very* random!"
> I'd expect this use of timings is better than using the large
>random number you entered, but in a theory sense only. Both are
>pretty difficult; thats why we like large numbers. :)
--Tim May
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