From: dirsec <unicorn@schloss.li>
Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 20:23:33 +0800
To: jamesd@echeque.com
Subject: Re: [NOISE] Re: Dorothy Denning attacks Leahy's crypto bill
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On Thu, 21 Mar 1996 jamesd@echeque.com wrote:

> At 05:31 AM 3/21/96 -0500, dirsec wrote:
> > I think Leahy will, quite rightly, refuse to adopt the new bill because 
> > it has a snowball's chance in hades of passing, and it makes him look 
> > soft on crime and terrorists.
> 
> Hold it:  Backup:  Opponents of the bill say it says X:  Supporters of the 
> bill say it says Y:  The proposal is to rewrite the bill so it actually 
> does say Y in plain english.  And you (quite correctly) say that the bill
> will not pass if says Y.

It's even deeper than this really.  Opponents of the bill say it says X.  
Supporters of the bill say it says Y.  The bill actually sounds more like 
X than Y.  There is very little incentive to make the bill anything like 
Y.  The bill could probably be a straight forward X and still pass.

> 
> You are right.
> 
> The bill does not facilitate crypto exports, it just sounds like it does, 
> and it delegates judicial powers to cops.

Well, it facilitates them, but it takes with the other hand at the same 
time.  It does not facilitate strong unescrowed crypto exports.

> If it was amended to facilitate crypto exports, and to maintain the 
> separation of judiciary and executive, it would not pass.

If it was just amended to facilitate crypto exports, it would not pass.

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