From: Jim Byrd <byrd@acm.org>
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
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From: Jim Byrd <byrd@acm.org>
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 1996 13:46:39 +0800
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
Subject: Re: Scientologists may subpoena anonymous remailer records
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The complete deposition may be found in RealAudio format at
http://www.northcoast.com/~grady/depo
At 07:02 PM 4/9/96 -0700, John Gilmore wrote:
>I thought that most or all of the cypherpunk anonymous remailers don't
>keep records. Not even on backup tapes. The whole idea is that there
>aren't logs. But maybe they have found some remailers that are
>non-cypherpunk. And I haven't verified the truth of what's in the msg
>below. If anyone hears anything, please let me (or eff@eff.org) know.
>
> John Gilmore
>
>Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 18:27:02 -0700
>To: fight-censorship+@andrew.cmu.edu, eric@remailer.net,
> farber@cis.upenn.edu (Dave Farber)
>From: jwarren@well.com (Jim Warren)
>Subject: (fwd fyi - NOT verified!!) very urgent news
>
>Seems like it's just a tad overbroad, if true. Another example of, "all
>the 'justice' that one can buy"?
>
>--jim
>
>>Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 15:44:52 -0700 (PDT)
>>From: shelley thomson <sthomson@netcom.com>
>>Subject: very urgent news
>>To: jwarren@well.com
>>
>>Hello, Jim Warren:
>>
>> The church of scientology plans to subpoena the records of every
>>anonymous remailer in the USA.
>>
>> I publish a news/black humor magazine on the net called **Biased
>>Journalism**. As a journalist I have covered the collision between the
>>church of scientology and the net. My last three issues have focused on
>>legal action by the church against Grady Ward and Keith Henson.
>>
>> Today I had a note from Grady Ward, whose deposition was finished
>>today. He said that they asked him a lot of questions about me, and
>>warned me that they may issue a subpoena for me and a demand for my
>>email.
>>
>> The church presumably intends to claim that I am not a real
>>journalist because I only publish on the net. I need to prepare a legal
>>defense, and needless to say, can't afford a lawyer. If you can direct
>>me to any resources, I would appreciate it very much.
>>
>> On the basis of events today, Ward believes the church will
>>issue subpoenas for the records of every anonymous remailer in the USA.
>>
>> If these records are delivered to the church, our First Amendment
>>rights go with them.
>>
>> Shelley Thomson
>>
>> publisher, **Biased Journalism**
>> 800-731-0717 voice message
>
>
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