1996-04-19 - Re: Spaces in passwords

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From: Paul_Koning/US/3Com%3COM@smtp1.isd.3com.com
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
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UTC Datetime: 1996-04-19 20:48:14 UTC
Raw Date: Sat, 20 Apr 1996 04:48:14 +0800

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From: Paul_Koning/US/3Com%3COM@smtp1.isd.3com.com
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 1996 04:48:14 +0800
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
Subject: Re: Spaces in passwords
Message-ID: <9604191931.AA4559@>
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>>Of course not. In a normal Unix password, adding spaces to the
>>password search space increases the search space, so it necessarily
>>makes the search harder.
>
>Depends on the space of ideas that are leading to your passwords.
>If the reason you're adding spaces is to separate an n-character word
>from the dictionary from a 7-n character word from the dictionary,
>this reduces the search space for a cracker considerably.
>At least pick random punctuation instead.

Huh?  I don't follow your reasoning.

If you use two random words, the search space for a dictionary attack
with an N word dictionary is N^2.  That's true whether you include a space
or leave it out.  If you use "random punctuation" and the punctuation
character is unknown, you add perhaps a factor 20, which is so much smaller
than N that it isn't worth arguing about.

Two-word passphrases are pretty good, and if you feel uncomfortable
with an N^2 work factor, use three words to get N^3.  That's a much bigger
win than talking about random punctuation characters.

 paul

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