From: tcmay@got.net (Timothy C. May)
Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 12:46:49 +0800
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
Subject: Re: Why I dislike Java. (was Re: "Scruffies" vs. "Neats")
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At 6:38 PM 4/30/96, Perry E. Metzger wrote:
>Timothy C. May writes:
>> SCRUFFIES AND NEATS IN SECURITY
>>
>> The "security neat" believes in applying rigor to security. Machines and
>> languages should be "provably secure." (Better yet, machines should be
>> "provably correct," a la Viper, and operating systems and languages should
>> produce provably correct code.)
>
>Don't take this the wrong way, Tim, but you have totally
>misinterpreted the position many of us who dislike Java take. You
>completely mischaracterize our attitude.


Perry, that essay was, as I said, sent out before it was finished. I did
not even get to the part I was planning about classifying the Java
supporters/detractors as either scruffies or neats!

Now, while you may have _anticipated_ the point I was going to make in the
completed essay, you cannot say I have "mischaracterized" anyone's attitude
at this point!

Unless you have a source of thiotimoline I'm not aware of.

--Tim


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