From: snow <snow@smoke.suba.com>
Date: Sat, 18 May 1996 15:00:06 +0800
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
Subject: Re: [NOISE] Re: Edited Edupage, 9 May 1996
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On Wed, 15 May 1996, Jim McCoy wrote:
> > Are you saying those poor people in rural West Virgina only live
> > there because they are not trying hard enough to get out?
> 
> Yes he is.  They are poor and it is all their fault.
> 
> [flame-bait approaching...]
> 
> There are two kinds of libertarians, those who hate the poor and those who
> don't.  I always seem to meet the former, I am beginning to suspect the
> latter don't exist.

	Hi Mr. McCoy, My name is Petro, and I _am_ a poor libertarian
(well, sort of a libertarian, I tend to think they are a little short
sighted, and a little to authoritarian to me)  Many of us ARE poor. We may
not _like_ being poor, and some of us are working to get out of that
situation, but most of us don't "hate" the poor. We (well, I) hate people
with their hands out. This is everyone from poor people who _won't_ try to
get out of their situation, to Multi-billion dollar corporations that
recieve government grants for over seas advertising to old people who
didn't plan for their "golden years"  and expect us to provide the gold.

> Yes, he is.  It is times like this that I must count myself among the
> pitchfork and torch wielding mob, if only because I have been cursed
> with a small amount of compassion for those who were not as lucky as I.

	Is it evil to ask people to work for their sustanence? Is it evil
to ask someone to work to get out of the situation? Is it evil to demand a
system based on reward for work, rather than a reward for being a squeaky
wheel? 
 
> BTW Mr. Avon, the reason we, the unruly mob of collectivists, socialists, and
> [insert libertarian/anarchist buzzword here] should stick a gun in your
> back and make you cough up money for education is because we can.  If you
> don't want to do so, they why don't _you_ move?  Are your feet cast in
> concrete blocks?

	Because you and your kind have been fscking up every other country
on this planet that has acheived a decent technological base. Let US have
this one. 

Petro, Christopher C.
petro@suba.com <prefered for any non-list stuff>
snow@crash.suba.com