1996-05-05 - Re: WWW proxies?

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From: “Mark M.” <markm@voicenet.com>
To: Cypherpunks <cypherpunks@toad.com>
Message Hash: bb0bb2cbeb24a562d658fc6058cc9dbf40b12ab58a64eb170dc7e92f1621cb6a
Message ID: <Pine.LNX.3.93.960505143021.706B-100000@gak>
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UTC Datetime: 1996-05-05 22:50:13 UTC
Raw Date: Mon, 6 May 1996 06:50:13 +0800

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From: "Mark M." <markm@voicenet.com>
Date: Mon, 6 May 1996 06:50:13 +0800
To: Cypherpunks <cypherpunks@toad.com>
Subject: Re: WWW proxies?
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Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.93.960505143021.706B-100000@gak>
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On Sun, 5 May 1996, Lucky Green wrote:

> Of course these sites are in an ideal position to log their user's every
> move. With so many users making all their http requests through a single
> site, the commercial value of the information that could be gained by
> logging traffic at the site is tremendous.
> 
> Only when a network of anonymizing sites is connected through something
> like PipeNet and the users are either PipeNet nodes themselves, or at least
> randomly use various PipeNet nodes for their http connections, does the
> security of the user increase.
> 
> With only one hop, IMHO, the potential risk outweighs the potential
> benefit. I'd advise against using such single-hop http anonymizers. YMMV.

The same is also true for cpunk and penet-style remailers that do not use
encryption.  You always have to trust remailer operators regardless of whether
encryption is used or not.  The situation will become much better when there
is some way to chain proxies and encrypt to each individual proxy.  If the
operator of a proxy is more trustworthy than the operators of any sites you
visit using the proxy, then you have nothing to lose.

- -- Mark

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