From: “Deranged Mutant” <WlkngOwl@unix.asb.com>
To: Raph Levien <s_levien@research.att.com>
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From: "Deranged Mutant" <WlkngOwl@unix.asb.com>
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 14:56:03 +0800
To: Raph Levien <s_levien@research.att.com>
Subject: Re: How I Would Ban Strong Crypto in the U.S.
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On 15 Jul 96 at 9:58, Raph Levien wrote:
[..]
> Thanks to Dave for posting this URL. This is a _very_ important
> document, and I would recommend that all concerned cypherpunks read it
> carefully. Unlike many of its predecessors, it is clearly written and
> quite upfront about the "administration's" goals.
>From the document:
"This framework will encourage commerce both here and abroad. It is
similar to the approach other countries are taking, and will permit
nations to establish an internationally interoperable key management
infrastructure with rules for access appropriate to each country's
needs and consistent with law enforcement agreements. [...]"
With differing rules, I can't see how such a system can work. What
happens when one country wants the keys from the citizen of another
who is 'favored' by the other's government? (ie, say the US gov't
wants keys that a drug cartel kingpin uses when he chats with the
brother of the president of some other country...)
And can one be sure that a country's LEAs request keys because a
citizen is involved with 'organized crime', or is really a political
activist of the unwanted kind?
What's to prevent cooperation of the FBI with foreign LE's (such as
in Russia) with looser search-and-seizure rules?
Who is going to manage such systems? Private corporations in various
countries? Will users have a choice as to which to use? (It would
seem the institutions of some countries are less trustworthy than
others for different people around the planet.) How many people
would trust the UN? (ObHumor: I hear in the year 2000 the Olympics
will have black helicopter races...)
Global key management, even with universal rules, would seem
unworkable. Managing BILLIONS of keys will involve a lot of
complexity, in terms of locating keys, data integrity and
preservation, authentication, etc.
Methinks it's time for the administration to inhale... oxygen is good
for the brain.
I think the potential of import controls has a bit more hype than the
admin makes it out to be. There's already a lot of strong crypto out
there... so how much political strong-arming can the Admin do?
I wonder how the Microsoft C[r]API fits in to this, since it mentions
"export of cryptography-ready operating systems".
Rob
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