From: snow <snow@smoke.suba.com>
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 1996 16:22:27 +0800
To: David Sternlight <david@sternlight.com>
Subject: Re: Filtering out Queers is OK
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     Sorry Perry, I tried. 

On Sun, 21 Jul 1996, David Sternlight wrote:

> At 10:24 AM -0700 7/21/96, Robert A. Hayden wrote:
> >The purpose of a librarian is to aid patrons in locating
> >materials and to maintain the order of the library.  The Library Bill of
> >Rights (which, of course, legally means nothing) guarantees access to any
> >materials by any patron.  If little eight year old Johnny Doe comes and
> >asks for _The Joy of Gay Sex_, a librarian is supposed to do nothing more
> >that point Johnny to the "J" section.
> Not in the cities I'm familiar with. And so to do would be wrong, in my
> view. In fact, library children's programs do a LOT more than simply aiding
> patrons in locating materials and maintaining the order of the library, so
> your contention is false on its face.

     Ok bonehead, explain the difference between LIBRARIAN and LIBRARY
CHILDREN'S PROGRAM. 

     Then go back and re-read what Mr. Hayden wrote. Then think about it for
a couple hours. Then look at what you wrote. Does what you wrote have 
more than a passing relationship with what Mr. Hayden wrote? 

     No. You ignored his point, you missed his point, and you didn't bother
to reply to his point, you just went blythly blathering along on your own 
self indulgent little course. 

     Let us look at this line by line:

> >The purpose of a librarian is to aid patrons in locating
> view. In fact, library children's programs do a LOT more than simply aiding

     Librarian != library children's program. 

> >materials and to maintain the order of the library.  The Library Bill of
> >Rights (which, of course, legally means nothing) guarantees access to any
> >materials by any patron.  If little eight year old Johnny Doe comes and
> >asks for _The Joy of Gay Sex_, a librarian is supposed to do nothing more
> >that point Johnny to the "J" section.
> Not in the cities I'm familiar with. And so to do would be wrong, in my
> view. In fact, library children's programs do a LOT more than simply aiding
> patrons in locating materials and maintaining the order of the library, so
> your contention is false on its face.

    How so Mr AssTorch? He contends that the Library Bill of Rights says one 
thing and you argue that the library childrens programs do a LOT more than 
this bill of rights says they must. 

    The US Bill of rights says a lot of things that our government ignores 
whenever possible, that doesn't mean that those words aren't written, nor
does it mean that they aren't in effect anywhere. 
y

Petro, Christopher C.
petro@suba.com <prefered for any non-list stuff>
snow@smoke.suba.com