From: "Allen Robinson" <sebago@earthlink.net>
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 14:31:29 +0800
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
Subject: Re: cypherpunks vs hacker
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On 29 Jul 96 at 6:06, pjn@nworks.com wrote:
(in response to Tim's suggestion that:)

>  In> Rather than debate semantics of the definition of "hacker," or ask
>  In> others to suggest definitions, it might be better for interested folks
>  In> to read some of the various books on the topic and then decide for
>  In> themselves. Some of them are:
> 
>  In> - Levy, "Hackers," of course
> 
>    Very good history.
> 
>  In> - Haffner and Markoff, "Cyberpunk" 
> 
>  In> - Sterling's book on hackers
> 
>    Hacker Crackdown.
> 
>  In> - any one (but not more) of the several Shimomura v. Mitnick books
> 
>    I think that Markoffs book on the incident was written beter then the 
>    rest.
> 
>    I might also suggest:
> 
>    - Masters of Deception
> 
>    - The Cuckoos Egg by Stoll
> 

Not to unduly belabor this, but I quite recently discovered another,
somewhat less widely known book on the subject.  _Approaching
Zero_ by Paul Mungo & Bryan Clough.  I've only skimmed it, but
my 11 year-old son has promised to lend it to me when he finishes
reading it.

AR

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