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From: "Omegaman" <omega@bigeasy.com>
Date: Tue, 6 Aug 1996 10:38:02 +0800
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
Subject: NYtimes OPed pro-wiretapping 8/2
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found this today as well. One negative reply letter was also posted.
reference:
<http://www.nytimes.com/yr/mo/day/early/02heym.html>
"August 2, 1996
Listening in on Terrorism
By PHILIP HEYMANN
CAMBRIDGE, Mass. -- President Clinton's major proposals
for new powers to fight terrorism are useful and pose
no threat to Americans' civil liberties. "
( oooookkaaay...)
" Many of these measures are intended only to give government
as much power to thwart terrorism as it already has to
combat other criminal acts."
(do go on...I'm fascinated now)
" The part of the plan that has drawn the most criticism from
across the political spectrum involves proposals to increase
the Government's investigative powers, particularly through
wiretapping and other methods of monitoring phone calls. "
[..snip..]
(assertion follows that current laws are inadequate for electronic
surveillance against terrorism.)
" In criminal cases the courts have never considered the use
of devices that record the numbers of incoming or outgoing
calls on a telephone to be significant invasions of privacy."
(Never mind what the "people" might say)
" But there is no similar provision for investigations of
suspected foreign terrorists. Under the President's
proposal, agents would be allowed to use the devices if they
can show that it is relevant to a terrorism investigation."
(not exactly sure how a terrorist investigation differs from a
criminal investigation...but this is the distinction Heyman is
drawing. In his view, current law is not sufficient against domestic
terrorist investigation.)
" Under current law, officials must get a separate warrant for
each phone the suspect uses unless they can prove the
suspect is changing phones purposely to thwart
investigation. This is a stricter standard than is applied
even to requests to plant a microphone to overhear a
suspect."
[..snip..]
" Government agents would still be required to
show probable cause that the suspect is committing one of
the offenses on the Federal list and that the calls being
monitored will concern that crime. "
(Gosh! Who knew the government and the FBI were so powerless?)
" Philip Heymann, a former Deputy Attorney General in the
Clinton Administration, is a professor at Harvard Law School
and the Kennedy School of Government.
Copyright 1996 The New York Times Company "
(big shock, eh?)
...
To say that Mr. Heymann is being misleading is an understatement. He
ignores that the government wishes to be able to wiretap for 48 hours
without prior court approval. He attempts to imply that the roving
wiretap is focused on an individual rather than a location or
locations. And he seems to believe that all of these enormous powers
will not be abused.
I wonder if he would feel differently if his personal FBI file was
among those gathered by the Clinton administration.
me
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