From: tcmay@got.net (Timothy C. May)
Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 15:32:16 +0800
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
Subject: Re: Internal Passports
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At 10:06 AM 8/6/96, Duncan Frissell wrote:
>At 07:37 PM 8/5/96 -0700, Timothy C. May wrote:
>
>>But the law says, these days, that I must verify the
>>legality of workers *if* they appear to be dark-skinned, Mexican, Latin, or
>>the like. I say "if" because there are no requirements in general for
...
>Naughty naughty Tim.  You're violating the Immigration Control and
>Nationality Act of 1986.  You are supposed to check all employee's IDs even
>your own childrens' and fill out that I-9 form.  You have to verify identity
>and right to work using a menu of documents ranging from passports and SS
>cards to Driver's licenses and "American Indian Tribal Documents" (I gotta
>get me some of them).  And there are special provisions to punish
>discrimination against those who appear foreign.  After all, there are loads
>of illegal Canadians and Irish here.  People are always coming from the
>third world counties.  <G>
>
>The law also required that a commission study whether or not the "foreign
>appearing" were suffering discrimination because of the law and it reported
>a few years later that sure enough, they were.

On this last point, hardly surprising. After all, the "punishment" (risk,
cost) for not checking an obviously-Caucasoid person of apparent American
origins is effectively zero, while the punishment for hiring a Mexican who
may have slipped over the border and gotten a forged credential is high.
(Employers here in California have been penalized for hiring Mexicans whose
credentials turned out to be phony...I guess the employer was supposed to
have known this by some sort of ESP.) Simpler to avoid hiring Mexicans and
other dusky folks.

The law of unintended consequences...

BTW, I am _not_ a supporter of the Prop. 187 issue in California. Nor do I
in any way support the "deputization" of employers as agents of the
Immigration and Naturalization Service. This is comparable to deputizing
employers as agents of the Drug Enforcement Agency...though many companies
have bowed to pressure from the narcs and "D.A.R.E." lobby and have
drug-testing programs, they are not (yet) required by law to test all
employees, except in some particular job funcitons, etc.

As far as I am concerned, this country has never moved toward the general
concept of a "work permit" (permission by the government to get a job), and
it is a real danger of this anti-illegal-immigrant hysteria that we will
soon see the effective equivalent of "work permits." This will of course
give the authorities even more power.

We're getting closer and closer to the world of "The Shockwave Rider."

--Nicky Halflinger

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