1996-08-03 - Re: fbi, crypto, and defcon

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From: Steven L Baur <steve@miranova.com>
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
Message Hash: ad668b8c5b3224f8eb2fd4c695fa3cc880b464d9519011552309d95b248eccbe
Message ID: <m2lofxtlhl.fsf@deanna.miranova.com>
Reply To: <9608021922.AA06774@sherry.ny.ubs.com>
UTC Datetime: 1996-08-03 02:18:12 UTC
Raw Date: Sat, 3 Aug 1996 10:18:12 +0800

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From: Steven L Baur <steve@miranova.com>
Date: Sat, 3 Aug 1996 10:18:12 +0800
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
Subject: Re: fbi, crypto, and defcon
In-Reply-To: <9608021922.AA06774@sherry.ny.ubs.com>
Message-ID: <m2lofxtlhl.fsf@deanna.miranova.com>
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>>>>> "Paul" == Paul J Bell <pjb@ny.ubs.com> writes:

jonathon> When I purchased my computers, I had to pay $150 to not have
jonathon> Windows and Dos installed on them.  That $150 went to Microsoft.
jonathon> It seemed to me that I was being ripped off, by Microsoft.

Paul> as i said, i have no use for microsoft, whats more, i don't use
Paul> microsoft.  that said, if a person really must pay to not have
Paul> their products installed, i agree that that is intorelable, and
Paul> at the least calls for finding a new vendor for computers. if
Paul> you really don't plan to use dos or windows, there is no reason
Paul> why you should pay for them. frankly, this sounds like a real
Paul> stupid move on the part of your hardware vendor. maybe you need
Paul> to shop around.

This is exactly what a new lawsuit recently filed against Microsoft is
about.  See
for details.

They've already had their hand slapped for the per-processor license
agreements they pushed in the early '90s.  The per-processor licenses
were where Microsoft forced hardware vendors to pay a certain fee
based on CPUs sold regardless of what system software was delivered on
steve@miranova.com baur
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