From: "Dan Siemon" <dsiemon@cyg.net>
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 1996 03:26:58 +0800
To: <cypherpunks@toad.com>
Subject: Re: Fun with M$
Message-ID: <199608121526.LAA07380@granite.cyg.net>
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> From: Rich Graves <llurch@networking.stanford.edu>
> To: cypherpunks@toad.com
> Subject: Re: Fun with M$
> Date: Friday, August 09, 1996 8:46 PM
> 
> On Fri, 9 Aug 1996, Jeremey Barrett wrote:
> 
> > Information page with a link to a page which loads the control:
> > 
> > 	http://www.halcyon.com/mclain/ActiveX/
> > 
> > Quote from the page:
> > 
> > Exploder is an Active X control which demonstrates security problems
with 
> > Microsoft's Internet Explorer. Exploder performs a clean shutdown of 
> > Win95 and will turn off the power on machines that have a power
> > conservation BIOS (green machines).

I don't see how anyone can call this a bug. Microsoft has chosen what Sun
should have: leave the security to the user, don't take it away from
everyone. Java has been sverly crippled by the removal of features that
would have made applets truly usefull, like local disk access. By leaving
these abilities and allowing the user to choose whether or not to run the
object, leaves the trusted objects to be truly usefull. Microsoft has even
designed a system of trust verification for these objects throught the
trust chain and the MS download service. For details on the MS download
service look at the july 96 issue of Microsoft Systems Journal. Security
should be a user/parent decision not a general ban to protect a few.