From: tcmay@got.net (Timothy C. May)
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 19:01:35 +0800
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
Subject: Re: Bernstein hearing: The Press Release
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At 2:23 PM 9/23/96, Declan McCullagh wrote:
>On Sun, 22 Sep 1996, Timothy C. May wrote:
>
>> If California were to, say, ban speech critical of women's or homosexual's
>> rights, would not the First Amendment trump this attempt?
>
>Not necessarily.
>
>The Supreme Court has upheld Title VII's ban on workplace "harassment."
>The Court said it occured when "discriminatory intimidation, ridicule, and
>insult" in a workplace create an uncomfortable "working environment."
>
>Then there's public accomodation law, under which the (I recall) Greek
>owner of a privately-operated diner was held liable for using the word
>"nigger" where a black woman could overhear.

Whoops! I didn't mean to intersect with "workplace" issues--I mean simple,
pure, nonworkplace-related speech.

To make this clearer and to separate Title VII stuff out:

If California were to, say, ban speech which included the word "orange," or
to ban speech which mentioned "Allah," wouldn't the First trump this
attempt?

As to Title VII and all that garbage, I think the First Amendment means
what it says, and that there's something desperately wrong when many blacks
call each other "niggers," as in "Yo, Nigga!," but nonblacks can be hit
with lawsuits for letting this word slip out.

By the way, I just read chunks of Ronald Dworkin's new book on the
Constitution, and he makes some interesting comments on the feminist view
that words hurtful to women ought to be censored...he's against such
interpretations, and argues that if speech hurtful to women, or images
hurtful to women, etc., are banned, then why not ban speech critical of
Creationists, and speech insulting to Flat Earthers?

--Tim May


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