1996-09-29 - Re: What about making re-mailers automatically chain?

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From: “Timothy C. May” <tcmay@got.net>
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
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UTC Datetime: 1996-09-29 18:27:35 UTC
Raw Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 02:27:35 +0800

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From: "Timothy C. May" <tcmay@got.net>
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 02:27:35 +0800
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
Subject: Re: What about making re-mailers automatically chain?
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At 4:14 AM -0500 9/29/96, David E. Smith wrote:

>I dunno about that one.  Even if the message itself is encrypted,
>every remailer has to have the address of the final recipient for
>your plan to work.  And if you have cleartext for that message
...

Actually, as I read the original proposal, it was to only _insert_
additional links. Thus, imagine the following remailer chain, with Alice
sending to Zeke  through a chain, represented in parentheses (like LISP):

Bob(Charles(Dora(Ed(Frank(........Zeke))))....)

(All messages are encrypted, etc.)

Now, imagine that Charles elects to add two additial chains, XXXX and YYYY
(to make them stand out in my representation). From his point on, the chain
will look like:

(XXXX(YYYY(Dora(Ed(Frank(........Zeke))))....)

Likewise, any of the later remailers can add more links, etc.

Some dangers are that "lost Dutchman" messages will remain in the system
forever. This gets fixed by probablistic criteria, to produce convergence.
Or with digital postage, which causes convergence for ontological reasons.

Adding new links, or adding "middleman" links, is always possible. We've
had several discussions of this over the years.

--Tim May

We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, I know that that ain't allowed.
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