From: Duncan Frissell <frissell@panix.com>
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
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From: Duncan Frissell <frissell@panix.com>
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 22:26:20 +0800
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
Subject: Re: Terrorists
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At 06:58 PM 9/9/96 -0700, Timothy C. May wrote:
>Remember, folks, it is _governments_ which interfere with natural movements
>of people, capital, but not birds.
>
>I don't want to jeopardize my reputation as a List.Racist, but I think one
>of the longterm (not in the next 15 years) implications of the things we
>talk about will be the increased lowering of national borders. (Yes, I have
>long talked about national borders being only speed bumps...here I'm
>talking about _physical_ borders.)
I assume defacto open borders pretty quickly. We currently have 40 million
crossings a year (mostly us and Canadians) but as people get richer that is
bound to grow rapidly. Since technology causes wealth and wealthy people
like to travel and governments don't like to block wealthy travelers and
travelers can increase faster than border guards swamping occurs.
What happens when 2000-passenger surface effect aircraft (or other new
travel technologies) start showing up on the market and la migra has to deal
with high volume travel. They're having trouble with current levels at JFK
and Miami. They scale back.
I'm not predicting de jure open borders just defacto open borders. And with
those who work on the net being able to work from everywhere and nowhere,
they will be able to work in countries where they do not have work
authorization as easily as a novelist can today.
DCF
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