From: dlv@bwalk.dm.com (Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM)
Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 13:25:20 +0800
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
Subject: Timmy May's spam (Was: Re: CIA hacked)
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Adam Back <aba@dcs.ex.ac.uk> writes:
>
> Dimitri Vulis <dlv@bwalk.dm.com> writes:
> > > [email reply protesting spam]
> >
> > You are confused. The above question was e-mailed to me by one of
> > Timmy May's friends.
>
> What you were doing was confusing... how about attributing what people
> have said to you, in the standard way?  I was unsure what was going on
> until you clarified here.  Instead of including all the headers in
> there with just a space between your headers and the quoted headers
> (which makes it hard to follow, and makes one wonder if someone is
> trying a crude forgery), use standard quoting conventions:
>
> 	Joe Blogss <joe@bloggs.com> writes in private email:
> 	> [quoted message body]...
>
> or similar?

You're right - the forwarding mechanism I've been using so far just yanks in
the spam e-mail without any processing. I will henceforth
 1) Put the words 'Tim', 'May', and 'spam' in the subject line
 2) Put some obvious ASCII prefix in front of the quotes.
I apologize for any confusion.

> > If you have any comments about Timmy May's friends not knowing
> > English, trying to insult people, and posting non-crypto-relevant
> > political rants, address them to Timmy May and his friends.
>
> It would seem to me that the first insults were thrown by yourself,
> and that your strange habit of bouncing all the fallout to the list is
> perpetuating the problem.

No. Let me remind you the sequence of events, in chronological order:

1. Timmy May (who picked up a few popular PKC buzzwords, doesn't know
anything about crypto, and isn't interested in learning) started spamming
this mailing list with political rants

2. Most people who used to discuss crypto work on this mailing list
have unsubscribed.

3. I pointed out a few examples of Tim making factually bogus claims in
his rants.

4. Tim got very angry at me and started flaming me. I ignored him.

5. Tim posted a series of rants about me, attributing to me various
nonsense I never said. I pointed out once that I never said it and
then ignored him.

6. Recently it came to my attention that Tim's been contacting off-list
various people in the computer security field and "complaining" about
the politically incorrect things that I supposedly say on the Internet
- except that he made up most of the "things" he complained about.

7. At this point I pointed out quite publicly that he's a liar.

8. Since that time, several friends of Tim May (or maybe Tim himself,
using multiple accounts) have been sending me harrassing e-mail, often
by quoting my own cypherpunks articles and adding an obscenity.

9. Tim himself continues flaming me and telling lies about me (see his
recent rant with the subject "death threats").

And you see, Timmy May is an obsessive liar and a vindictive nutcase.

> If reporting to the list is accurate, I hear you have a PhD with a
> subject related to crypto, so presumably you would have ample
> knowledge to contribute technical crypto related thoughts.  I'm sure
> people would be interested in anything along those lines you cared to
> contribute, and your reputation would benefit,

I still hope to be able discuss crypto on this mailing list (yes, my Ph.D.
thesis was about crypto), but I see two problems:

1. A lot of people have already left this list, unwilling to be subjected
to Tim May's rants, lies, and personal attacks. If I post something crypto-
relevant to this mailing list, they won't see it.

2. Here's an example of the net-abuse being perpetrated by Tim May and his
merry gang of mailbombers. I posted some crypto-relevant wire clippings
to this mailing list. Either Tim (using an alternate account) or some pal
of his e-mailed it back to me with an obscenity appended.

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]>
]> Money Laundering Alert: August 1996
]>
]> 'Unauthorized' Banks Pose Laundering Threat
]>
]> They are subject to none of the recordkeeping or reporting requirements
]> of the Bank Secrecy Act, receive no examinations from any banking
]> regulator, and may be on your bank's currency transaction reporting
]> exemption list.
]>
]> The Office of the Comptroller of the Currency refers to them as
]> "entities that may be conducting banking operations in the U.S. without
]> a license." Money launderers probably refer to them as dreams come true
]> and, unless legitimate financial institutions are alert, can use them to
]> place illicit proceeds into the financial system.
]>
]> They are "unauthorized" banks, and for the past five years the OCC has
]> been disseminating advisories to legitimate U.S. banks - but not to
]> consumers - in an effort to expose their existence and halt their
]> illegal operations.
]>
]> These so-called "banks" offer a variety of banking services, often at
]> lower fees and better interest rates than legitimate banks offer. What
]> makes them different from a legitimate bank - and attractive to money
]> launderers -- is that they are not licensed by any U.S. banking agency
]> and thus do not have to meet regulatory standards.
]>
]> Because the OCC and other federal bank regulators are not investigative
]> agencies, they can do little more than report these institutions to
]> those who are. If the entities are found to be operating a bank without
]> a license they can be prosecuted under the Glass-Steagell Act (Title 12,
]> USC Sec. 378(a)(2)).
]>
]> Such prosecutions are rare. In one case in 1994, initiated by Federal
]> Reserve Board examiners, the principals of Lombard Bank, Ltd., were
]> charged with operating an unauthorized bank through a payable-through
]> account at American Express Bank International in Miami. Lombard, which
]> had been "licensed" in the South Pacific money laundering haven of
]> Vanuatu, offered its Central American customers virtually full banking
]> services in the U.S. through its PTA (MLA, Sep. 1994).
]>
]> Earlier this year, the OCC released a list of more than 50 "banks" known
]> to be operating without authorization. OCC officials say the number
]> grows steadily. Some of the "banks" say they are licensed by foreign
]> countries or U.S. states to conduct banking business. Others, such as
]> the Swiss Trade & Commerce Trust, Ltd., of Belize, continue to offer
]> services in the U.S. despite edicts from foreign banking authorities to
]> cease doing business.
]>
]> The unauthorized entities have a common trait. They usually have names
]> that are similar to those of well-known legitimate institutions. The OCC
]> list includes the Bank of England, a Washington, D.C., entity not
]> associated with London's famous "old lady on Threadneedle Street" and
]> Citicorp Financial Services, a Beverly Hills firm not associated with
]> the better-known institution of that name. It also includes the First
]> Bank of Internet, which heralds itself as the first bank in cyberspace.
]>
]> Through its periodic "special alerts," the OCC warns banks to "view with
]> extreme caution any proposed transaction involving any of the listed
]> entities." It makes no effort to educate members of the general public
]> who unknowingly place their money and trust in those uninsured
]> institutions.
]>
]>
]>
]>
]> American Banker: Friday, August 30, 1996
]>
]> Swift Near Alliance in Trade Document Automation
]>
]> By STEVEN MARJANOVIC
]>
]> Swift, the international banking telecommunications network, wants to
]> play a bigger role in trade finance and the exchange of related
]> documentation.
]>
]> Sources said the Brussels-based organization will soon take a position--
]> perhaps as early as its September board meeting-- on whether to work on
]> trade automation in cooperation with another consortium, called Bolero.
]>
]> Such a move would involve an increase in nonbank participants on a
]> bank-owned network that has approached such liberalization cautiously.
]>
]> Swift, formally the Society for Worldwide Interbank Financial
]> Telecommunication, is used by 5,300 banks for exchanging messages in
]> such areas as funds transfer, foreign exchange, and securities.
]>
]> The network averaged about 2.7 million messages a day in July,
]> representing daily dollar volumes exceeding $2 trillion.
]>
]> Officials said Swift is nearing a decision to work with the Bolero
]> Association, which is forming an electronic registry for the so-called
]> "dematerializing" of trade documents. Swift could provide the "platform"
]> for allowing banks and corporations to exchange such documentation as
]> letters of credit and bills of lading.
]>
]> Bolero was formed in 1994 with funding from the European Commission, but
]> has not formulated concrete operating plans. Its members include
]> Citicorp, Barclays Bank PLC, and other multinational banks and
]> corporations.
]>
]> Peter Scott, trade services market director at Swift, said it has been
]> in discussions with London-based Bolero since December 1995 about
]> joining forces to automate the exchange of trade documents.
]>
]> "Bankers are beginning to sense both the opportunities in those areas
]> and the threats to them from an intermediary stepping in and potentially
]> taking away the business," Mr. Scott said.
]>
]> Trade-document capability "is not a heavily utilized area within Swift
]> at the present time," he said.
]>
]> The potential in automation is obvious to Bolero officials. At the New
]> York Banktrade Conference recently, John McKessy, the association's
]> North American representative, said the annual value of goods moved
]> internationally approaches $4 trillion.
]>
]> He estimated current international trade requires some three billion
]> documents to be issued and managed.
]>
]> The cost of dealing with paper alone eats up about 7% of the total value
]> of those goods, as much as $280 billion, Mr. McKessy said.
]>
]> Bank revenues from issuing letters of credit last year were just over $1
]> billion, according to a soon-to-be-released survey by the U.S. Council
]> on International Banking.
]>
]> Anthony K. Brown, senior vice president of trade services at MTB Bank,
]> described trade transaction processing as "extremely cumbersome and
]> tedious, prone to mistakes and delays (that) can be a hindrance to the
]> completion of a transaction."
]>
]> MTB is a $400 million-asset merchant bank based in New York. About 80%
]> of its $100 million in loans are trade-related.
]>
]> The paper-shuffling costs are not borne entirely by banks. Import/export
]> companies, insurers, freight forwarders, and various government
]> inspection agencies are also involved.
]>
]> "The question is whether Swift wants to do it," said Dan Taylor,
]> president of the New York-based U.S. Council.
]>
]> "Swift is going to act fairly quickly on this," he added.
]>
]> Mr. Taylor said Swift officials will likely grapple once again with the
]> political and philosophical issues of giving nonbanks more access to
]> Swift, and to payment systems generally.
]>
]> In 1995, the network granted partial access to nonbanks after years of
]> heated debate.
]>
]> "You always have this push and pull, where some banks would like Swift
]> to do certain things" while others want the network to focus on the
]> money transfer business, Mr. Taylor said.
]>
]> "If Bolero succeeds and Swift joins, I think it will move fairly
]> rapidly, but I'm not sure that Bolero is going to be the only thing out
]> there."
]>
]> He said Bolero might evolve using value-added networks - or intranets -
]> like the IBM Global Network and General Electric Information Services
]> Co., or perhaps even the Internet.
]>
]> Indeed, another member of Bolero, CSI Complex Systems Inc., New York, is
]> apparently talking to several providers of private, value-added networks
]> and may soon enter a contract with one.
]>
]> CSI letter-of-credit software leads the pack in banking, with about a
]> 16% market share, Mr. Taylor said.
]>
]> The company recently formed a business unit called Electronic Documents
]> International, which has developed an Internet-based system for
]> initiating letters of credit. CSI spokesman George Capsis said the
]> software, Import.com, creates "about 30 key documents involved in
]> international trade."
]>
]> The Internet, enhanced with security features, may help the trade
]> industry reduce paper-related costs, especially at smaller companies
]> overseas.
]>
]> CSI managing director Andre Cardinale said customers need only to "dial
]> into a bank's Internet server, pull up the Import.com application, and
]> actually fill in the details to create a new letter of credit or an
]> amendment to an existing one."
]>
]> While Bolero may find a place on the Internet or a GE-type network, Mr.
]> Cardinale said the ultimate push may yet come from the banking industry
]> working collectively through Swift.
]>
]> He said Swift opposition from nonbank constituencies that are concerned
]> the telecommunications cooperative will be more sympathetic to banks
]> when disputes arise.
]>
]> But "if Swift does it," he added, "it will bring banks into the universe
]> far more - pardon the pun - swiftly."
]>
]>
]> Crain's New York Business: August 26, 1996
]>
]> Bloomberg to Detail Growth of Information Empire
]>
]> Michael Bloomberg made a name for himself on Wall Street with his
]> trading acumen and mastery of the computer systems that were becoming
]> crucial to success in the securities business.
]>
]> But no one suspected when he left Salomon Brothers in 1981 that in the
]> next decade he would build the fastest-growing provider of financial
]> information in the world.
]>
]> Mr. Bloomberg, whose company Bloomberg Financial Markets has estimated
]> sales of $600 million, will be the keynote speaker at the fifth annual
]> Crain's ''Growing a Business Expo,'' to be held this year on Thursday,
]> Oct. 24.
]>
]> The event will take place at the New York Hilton & Towers from 8 a.m. to
]> 1 p.m. It is presented by Citibank and co-sponsored by Con Edison and
]> Empire Blue Cross and Blue Shield.
]>
]> Last year, more than 1,000 growing business owners and managers attended
]> the expo, which provides information for companies operating in the city
]> regarding potential suppliers, financial resources and government
]> programs.
]>
]> The cost to attend the event is $45 and includes a continental
]> breakfast. Individuals registering before Sept. 6 can bring a colleague
]> for free. To register, call Flagg Management at (212) 286-0333.
]>
]> In addition to Mr. Bloomberg's speech, attendees will be able to attend
]> seminars on financing and other help available from the city, financing
]> techniques, energy cost savings programs and how to reduce health
]> insurance costs. An expected 135 exhibitors will be offering products
]> and services of use to growing companies.
]>
]> Crain's New York Business editors will discuss how a growing business
]> can get coverage in Crain's and in other publications.
]>
]> The heart of Mr. Bloomberg's empire is a news gathering operation that
]> sends information through 62,000 computer terminals installed on the
]> desks of investment professionals around the nation. His company
]> provides the latest financial news and sophisticated tools to analyze
]> information.
]>
]> The company he has built is noted for its lack of bureaucracy despite
]> its growth to 2,000 employees. Its hallmarks are hands-on leadership and
]> an entrepreneurial atmosphere where employees receive perks such as free
]> food.
]>
]> Mr. Bloomberg has extended his reach to include an all-news radio
]> station in New York, WBBR; Bloomberg Personal TV; syndicated television
]> shows; a monthly personal finance magazine; and a similar magazine for
]> institutional investors.
]>
]>
]> American Banker: Friday, September 6, 1996
]>
]> America Online Opens a New Banking Channel
]>
]> By DREW CLARK
]>
]> Nineteen banks - national home banking stalwarts such as Citicorp and
]> BankAmerica, plus a complement of less prominent regionals - have
]> climbed onto the America Online bandwagon.
]>
]> Most already offer their customers several options for banking via
]> personal computer and view America Online, with its six million
]> subscribers, as a way to appeal to a broad cross-section of computer-
]> literate consumers.
]>
]> Fourteen of the AOL banking partners will be delivering services through
]> BankNow, a software package developed for the interactive network by
]> Intuit Inc.
]>
]> The other five banks have opted to use their own software. One of them -
]> Security First Network Bank, which operates entirely on the Internet -
]> will invite AOL users in through their Web browsers.
]>
]> With its announcement this week, America Online Inc. takes its place
]> among the many alternative "channels" for on-line banking.
]>
]> Many of the banks on AOL's list are simultaneously cooperating with
]> other companies that are themselves competitors, such as Intuit and
]> Microsoft Corp., suppliers of the Quicken and Money financial management
]> software, respectively.
]>
]> Also crossing competitive lines, America Online said its subscribers
]> will be able to bank from home with PC software from three suppliers
]> other than Intuit: Checkfree Corp., Online Resources and Communications
]> Corp., and Visa Interactive.
]>
]> "Everyone understands that there is competition in the home banking
]> arena," said David Baird, general manager of the personal finance
]> division at America Online, based in Dulles, Va. "To align ourselves
]> with exclusively one company would be a mistake."
]>
]> Intuit can count on 14 initial bank users of BankNow. Spokesmen for the
]> other three system vendors declined to say when they expect to have home
]> banking products available for the AOL channel.
]>
]> Experts noted that AOL and Intuit could be a strong tandem, in that they
]> dominate their respective businesses.
]>
]> Intuit's Quicken is the leading brand in personal finance software. The
]> company claims more than 9 million active users and a market share of
]> about 80%.
]>
]> America Online's subscriber base of six million is as big as those of
]> its next two competitors, Compuserve and Prodigy, combined.
]>
]> The financial institutions currently offering BankNow are: American
]> Express, Bank of Stockton (Calif.), Centura Banks Inc., Commerce Bank of
]> Kansas City, Mo., Commercial Federal of Omaha, Compass Bank of Alabama,
]> CoreStates Financial Corp., Crestar Financial Corp., First Chicago NBD
]> Corp., Laredo (Tex.) National Bank, M&T Bank of Western New York,
]> Marquette Bank of Minneapolis, Sanwa Bank California, and Union Bank of
]> California.
]>
]> More plan to offer BankNow-based services through AOL later this year:
]> BankAtlantic of Florida, Bank of Boston, First Hawaiian Bank, First
]> Michigan Bank, Mellon Bank, Signet Bank, and U.S. Bank of Oregon.
]>
]> Unlike Quicken, BankNow software is available free to America Online
]> subscribers.
]>
]> Banks' fees will vary. First National Bank of Chicago said it will
]> charge $3.95 a month for on-line banking and $9.95 a month for other
]> services that include bill payment.
]>
]> Centura Banks Inc. said it will offer on-line banking free, and charge
]> $5.95 a month for bill payment.
]>
]> Intuit officials declined to disclose what its Intuit Services Corp.
]> processing unit will charge to handle these transactions for banks.
]>
]> Some of Intuit's larger bank partners chose not to offer BankNow because
]> they already promote their own PC banking programs.
]>
]> For example, Citicorp, First Union, and Wells Fargo each support
]> Quicken, but passed on BankNow. Instead, they are paying a premium for a
]> "button" on America Online's banking screen that will eventually link
]> users to a proprietary home banking program.
]>
]>
]>
]> AP Online: Thursday, September 5, 1996
]>
]> House Probes Money Laundering
]>
]> By ROB WELLS
]>
]> House Banking Committee members on Thursday urged a Treasury Department
]> agency to step up its efforts to halt money laundering by Mexican drug
]> lords.
]>
]> Rep. Spencer Bachus, R-Ala., urged the Financial Crimes Enforcement
]> Network to put in place new regulations to plug a significant loophole
]> that allows Mexico's drug dealers to place their ill-gotten profits back
]> into the U.S.
]>
]> Bachus, chairman of the House Banking oversight subcommittee, said
]> Congress gave authority to FinCen in 1994 to put in place new rules that
]> would prevent drug dealers from using foreign bank drafts, a type of
]> check, to evade currency reporting restrictions.
]>
]> ''That effort is long, long overdue,'' Bachus said.
]>
]> Rep. Henry Gonzalez, D-Texas, asked the agency to provide further
]> details about suspected money laundering in his home town of San
]> Antonio, particularly the source of a $3 billion cash surplus in the San
]> Antonio Federal Reserve Bank.
]>
]> The issue arose as Bachus' panel began exploring the dramatic rise of
]> narcotics traffic along the 2,000 mile long U.S.-Mexico border, and the
]> ease with which drug dealers can ship their profits to the south. Money
]> laundering refers to the practice by which drug dealers, mobsters and
]> others funnel their illegal profits into the banking system through
]> businesses or other means.
]>
]> Bachus said estimates of drug profits laundered through Mexico range
]> from $6 billion to $30 billion per year. Stanely E. Morris, FinCen's
]> director, defended his agency's record, saying a combination of new
]> rules and tougher enforcement in the past decade has ''made it more
]> difficult to launder money in the U.S.'' and increased the costs of
]> money laundering. Morris' agency enforces the Bank Secrecy Act, a key
]> weapon against money laundering.
]>
]> As for the new rules aimed at foreign bank drafts, Morris said the
]> regulations are more difficult than first expected because such
]> restrictions also could hinder legitimate commerce. He said the proposal
]> would be released soon.
]>
]> FinCen is working on other fronts to combat money laundering, which
]> includes a new computer system that tallies bank fraud to help
]> regulators gain an early warning of money laundering.
]>
]> In addition, the Clinton Administration assisted Mexico in adopting new
]> anti-money laundering rules earlier this year. And Treasury Secretary
]> Robert Rubin convened a conference of 29 nations in December 1995 to
]> focus on the money laundering problem.
]>
]> One committee member, Rep. Maxine Waters, D-Calif., addressed the
]> political context of the hearings.
]>
]> Waters said she was suspicious that the Republican-led Congress was
]> holding ''a rash of hearings this month ... on the subject of drugs just
]> as Presidential candidate Dole tries to use the issue as part of his
]> campaign strategy against President Clinton.''
]>
]> Waters said if the GOP-led House ''is truly serious about the impact of
]> drugs'' it should hold hearings about charges raised in a San Jose
]> Mercury News investigative series last month concerning the role
]> CIA-backed rebels in Nicaragua played in bringing crack cocaine and
]> weapons to Los Angeles and other cities.
]>
]> Bachus told Waters the hearing wasn't motivated by politics and that he
]> had personally been involved in anti-drug efforts prior to his election
]> to Congress.
]>
]> ---
]>
]> Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM
]Fuckhead.

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