From: The Deviant <deviant@pooh-corner.com>
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 20:23:14 -0700 (PDT)
To: Ray Arachelian <sunder@brainlink.com>
Subject: Re: Fuck Cyberpromo
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On Mon, 14 Oct 1996, Ray Arachelian wrote:

> On Sun, 13 Oct 1996, Roy M. Silvernail wrote:
> 
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> > 
> > In list.cypherpunks, richieb@teleport.com writes:
> > 
> > > At 11:07 AM 10/13/96 CST, roy@scytale.com wrote:
> > > [snip]
> > >
> > >>Anyone on the list know of a good, heavy-handed collection agency that
> > >>would like to take this when it tops, say, $500?
> > >
> > > Why not just filter the shit?
> > 
> > Can't filter until the traffic is delivered to the local system here.
> > By that time, I've already paid for its delivery.  Wallace and
> > CyberPromo are costing me real, measurable money, and I want it stopped.
> > 
> > Besides, it will be a valuable precedent if I can collect (or even
> > obtain a judgement).  This is right in line with the junk fax law, which
> > recognized that junk faxes consume the receiver's resources without
> > permission or compensation.
> 
> I'd like to join you on this.  I have sent email to 
> wallace@asswipespamnet already as well as left them voice mail for every 
> message they sent, they will be charged $500 per message and the next one 
> I receive constitutes acceptance.  I've since then recieved about 4-5 
> more, which means they owe me $2000 or thereabouts. :)
> 
> So what steps do we need in putting some teeth into this?
> 

Hrmm.. as far as I know verbal agreement (i.e. verbal contract in the
future tense -- "I will charge you") is only valid up to $500 TOTAL.

but as long as thats the total, you'll probably piss them off enough
anyway. ;)

 --Deviant
When we write programs that "learn", it turns out we do and they don't.