From: “Mark M.” <markm@voicenet.com>
To: scrappo.reverb@juno.com>
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UTC Datetime: 1996-10-17 22:04:39 UTC
Raw Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 15:04:39 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Mark M." <markm@voicenet.com>
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 15:04:39 -0700 (PDT)
To: scrappo.reverb@juno.com>
Subject: Re: rival Clipper products
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On Wed, 16 Oct 1996, Psuedo Nym wrote:
> What somebody needs to do is make a rival for
> Clipper products. I propose that somebody with
> enough money should have a Clipper-type chip
> implementing Triple-DES or whatever developed
> and marketed. They should do the same things,
> except not be restricted by the government
> (obviously this wouldn't be for export) by the means
> of using weak crypto. These devices could probably
> be marketed to the same audience that Clipper
> products are aimed at, i.e. the general unsuspecting
> populace. The only problem I could see would be
> educating whoever buys into how the government
> is pulling the wool over their eyes. I'm sure with
> some funding from a major source, or some
> donation of time/supplies from a manufacturing
> company, it could be pulled off in grand fashion.
> Who said we can't play the government's little game?
Clipper is dead. It makes no sense for anyone to pay >$70 for a hardware
encryption device when many tools are available on the 'net for free. AT&T
is manufacturing a clipper phone and there aren't any software products that I
know of that support Fortezza(?) cards. The much larger danger is the recent
"key recovery" initiative.
Mark
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