From: Jim Ray <jmr@shopmiami.com>
Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 11:18:15 -0800 (PST)
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
Subject: Re: RE: Mass-market crypto phones
Message-ID: <199611221917.OAA38470@osceola.gate.net>
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To: cypherpunks@toad.com
Date: Sat Nov 23 14:16:14 1996
Peter Trei wrote:

<snip>

> It's kind of pathetic - I'm sure that the billions lost to cellular fraud
> far outweigh the value of crimes that the  LEA groups have been 
> able  prevent by preserving their ability to illegally eavesdrop on 
> cell calls without a warrant.

I agree, but to the LEAs, the "value of crimes" includes asset forfeiture 
"profits," which change that accounting in favor of eavesdropping (in their 
minds, at least). Of course, cellular fraud is paid for by others who, if 
they're politically active at all, are likely to demand even more money for 
the LEAs. A win -- win situation (in their minds, at least).
JMR


Regards, Jim Ray
DNRC Minister of Encryption Advocacy

One of the "legitimate concerns of law enforcement" seems to be
that I was born innocent until proven guilty and not the other
way around. -- me

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