1996-11-17 - Re: National Emergency

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From: attila@primenet.com
To: “Timothy C. May” <cypherpunks@toad.com>
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UTC Datetime: 1996-11-17 03:25:12 UTC
Raw Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 19:25:12 -0800 (PST)

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From: attila@primenet.com
Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 19:25:12 -0800 (PST)
To: "Timothy C. May" <cypherpunks@toad.com>
Subject: Re: National Emergency
Message-ID: <199611170326.UAA22741@infowest.com>
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In <v03007800aeb2dc721dbf@[207.167.93.63]>, on 11/15/96 
   at 06:59 PM, "Timothy C. May" <tcmay@got.net> said:

:[snip...]
:One of the things that most people don't appreciate is that these emergency
:orders are essentially never repealed. (Not too surprising--if I was in
:government, I wouldn't voluntarily give back any additional powers, either.
:And the only consituency for rolling them back is the membership of the
:evil militias, so nothing happens.)
:

        yes, you are absolutely right.  absolute power corrupts 
    absolutely and a government given (or taking) extra powers is not 
    likely to surrender same --they hope everyone forgets?

        maybe there is an analogy:

            militias:       the only way they'll take my weapon
                            is from my cooling, smoking hand....

            prez:           the only way they'll take my executive privileges
                            is to vote me out of office --IF I consent to leave.

--
    without arms they do not resist; 
        without communication they know not what to resist.
                -attila


[snip...]
:Basically, this was one of the alphabet soup of Emergency Orders, National
:Security Decision Directives, and Executive Decisions passed or enacted
:(sometimes in secrecy) during the last 30 years of the Continuing Emergency.

:(Nixon's wage-price freezes, the oil embargo actions, the strategic
:reserves, the anti-inflation measures, various Carter emergencies, and
:various Reagan emergency orders, including NSDD-145, which directly affects
:control of communicaitons, cryptography, etc.)

:FEMA, the Federal Emergency Preparedness Agency, took over several of these
:emergency orders (the running of them) in the late 70s.

:Standard stuff for we conspiracy buffs. One doesn't need to invoke
:historical groups like the Illuminati to see that the levers of power are
:pulled by strange folks.







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