From: "William H. Geiger III" <whgiii@amaranth.com>
Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 08:23:38 -0800 (PST)
To: "Murray Hayes" <mhayes@infomatch.com>
Subject: RE: Re: wealth and property rights
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In <199611281157.DAA12088@infomatch.com>, on 11/28/96 
   at 04:53 AM, "Murray Hayes" <mhayes@infomatch.com> said:

>On Wed, 27 Nov 96 10:16:20 -0500, William H. Geiger III wrote:

>>In <009ABBF7.ACB06A80.64@SPRUCE.HSU.EDU>, on 11/22/96 
>>   at 12:18 PM, jc105558@spruce.hsu.edu said:
>>
>>
>>socialism uses FORCE to take what it wants while the capitilism you have a
>>free & volintary exchange.
>>
>>why is this so hard to understand??
>>

>Don't be an idiot.  Socialism has nothing to do with force.  It is an
>economic system not a military stance.  

>Communisist belive:

>>From each according to there abilities
>To each according to there needs.

>Socialist belive:

>>From each according to there abilities
>To each accoring to there contirbution.

>They are very similar, BUT HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH FORCE!!!
>Some countries have very socialized systems with democracy.  Those people
>want socalized everything.  The US is socialized to a very small degree. 
>The UK is socialized to a further degree.
 
<sigh> socialism has EVERTHING to do with force. Socialism is based on the
TAKING from one to give to another. Without FORCE or the threat of FORCE
most people will not allow their hard earned property to be taken away
from them.

You look at any socialist program in the "democracies". Every one is a)
Manditory b) Backed by FORCE.



No socialist program has ever been implemented on a large scale without
the use of FORCE. It just can't work without it. I do not wish to be part
of the socialist programs in the U.S. Medicare, Medicaide, Welfaire, SS,
WIC, FoodStamps, ...ect. It is only because of the threat of the use of
FORCE against me that I continue to pay for such programs AGAINST MY WILL.

This is the same everywhere. If these were programs that the majority were
willing to participate volentary then why are they Manditory?? Why use the
FORCE of government to implement them?? 

Because socialism is THEIFT and people naturally resist the theift of
their property.



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